Supreme Court upholds obamacare

[lightsoutcalls]

Initial reports state that the Supreme Court upheld obamacare.  So, where do we go from here?  As I understand, they stated that it can be viewed as a tax, which is within the constitutional rights of the government to impose on its subjects... I mean citizens.

[bird]

Basically what the Supreme Court did is passed the buck onto the states but the Federal Gkvernment can't force the states to participate in the massive expanded medicare system and the Federal government cannot penalize the states that choose to not participate.  In reality Obama lost unless you live in a state that choices to participate in the Affordable Health Care Act. Essentially it's a Catch 22 decision.

[fallsflight]

As much as I didn't want to see this upheld and was shocked that Roberts sided with the libs (on this and Arizona), could this be a good thing for Gov. Romney come November, considering the fact that Obama will be showboating and campaigning on his "success" when the majority of Americans were against it? 

Also, it seems the Fed Gov can force/penalize states if they don't abide by this law. When they enacted the seat belt law back in the 70's, Reagan held back federal highway funds from the states that wouldn't enforce the seat belt laws. The states had no other alternative, but to enforce them.   They could do the same with this, no?

So hopefully the majority of Americans will see this as going against the WILL OF THE PEOPLE when it comes time to pull the lever in November!

[GSLAM95]

There all turds floating around in a punch bowl!  
The government has no business stepping into our health care period!  They bankrupted Social Security and Medicare so why would we want them handling this!
Ask anyone who lives in Canada what they think of having gov regulated health care.  I have been told some long waiting list stories for treatment that are scary   How would you like to wait 6 months just to see a knee specialist and then another 8 months before they could do the surgery?

[Eric Gregg]

But, I thought that Obama said this wasn't a tax, remember.
So if it wasn't a tax, how can the Supreme Court uphold it as a tax.
You mean to tell me Obama lied and it was actually a tax....I'm shocked

[ccleroy]

We are screwed people.

[Stoner]

It is becoming more difficult to be patriotic about our country when they keep taking away our liberties. I do not like what our country is becoming. Maybe it time that liberal states and conservative states go their own separate ways.

[lightsoutcalls]

  I just listened to a sound clip of an interview that george stephanopolis did with obama.  In this interview, obama condemns stephaopolis for looking up the definition of a tax in order to make an argument.  obama then goes on to flatly deny that obamacare is a tax.
   This is the very basis that the supreme court used (judge john roberts) to uphold obamacare, claiming it was a tax, and thereby constitutional.  If you can stand to watch and listen to 5 minutes of obama, you can watch for yourself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rL7ak__MGyw

[TurkeyScratch]

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It is becoming more difficult to be patriotic about our country when they keep taking away our liberties. I do not like what our country is becoming. Maybe it time that liberal states and conservative states go their own separate ways.
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[Eric Gregg]

It is becoming more difficult to be patriotic about our country when they keep taking away our liberties. I do not like what our country is becoming. Maybe it time that liberal states and conservative states go their own separate ways.

Stoner,
See my caption of the Bonnie Blue Flag. That is the flag that was immediatley hoisted over the capitol in MS when we declared independence from the union.
We tried that approach 140 years ago and we lost. If we couldn't pull it off then we sure can't pull it off now. What is amazing is that we have 9 people that are appointed to a position of immunity and guaranteed that position until death or retirement (SUPREME COURT). Romney needs to use this to his advantage and expose Obama for the socialist he has been all along.

[lightsoutcalls]

Just for the fun of it, take a look at how the stock markets react by the end of the day.  Dow Jones Industrial Average was down over 160 points within 3 hours of the supreme court decision.  How is it that only politicians don't seem to get it that this is a bad deal for all of us?

[Hooksfan]

It is becoming more difficult to be patriotic about our country when they keep taking away our liberties. I do not like what our country is becoming. Maybe it time that liberal states and conservative states go their own separate ways.

Stoner,
See my caption of the Bonnie Blue Flag. That is the flag that was immediatley hoisted over the capitol in MS when we declared independence from the union.
We tried that approach 140 years ago and we lost. If we couldn't pull it off then we sure can't pull it off now. What is amazing is that we have 9 people that are appointed to a position of immunity and guaranteed that position until death or retirement (SUPREME COURT). Romney needs to use this to his advantage and expose Obama for the socialist he has been all along.

Tom,
I was going to respond to Stoner with an eerily similar post.  Sure is funny how close this President's support base comes from the same geographic area our ancestors opposed 150 years ago.

[coyotetrpr]

At some point in time the people who are being ignored will have to stand together and fight for their rights. If enough people could organize and stop paying taxes to the corupt government our voices would then be heard.

[CASH]

BOHICA

Bend Over, Here It Comes Again!

[renegade19]

America has become a country of mindless sheep following along with the other mindless sheep while the rich get richer and the non-working class (notice I didn't say poor) get more and more of the working classes tax money.  I cannot believe this farce was upheld.  I agree with the poster that was shocked that Roberts voted for it?