sorry for my absence from the thread i had alot going on with my grandmother who passed away a month ago today and im in the process of moving so my presence here and in the hoods has been hindered i have only hunted one day so far unfortunatley and i am birdless althought my dad killed one that was 23lbs 11in bird and 1in spurs but hey not me so dont count for here...i will be more involved now that a little more time has been opened due to the fact i have nothjing else to do til i move haha