I WAS USING ONE OF THOSE BEFORE I GOT MY 835. i SHOT 3 IN NITRO TURKEY #5 AND WAS USING A TRUGLO GOBBLESTOP CHOKE IN IT. I KILLED QUITE A FEW TURKEYS WITH THAT GUN AND MY FATHER SHOT ONE OUT PAST 45 WITH IT AND ROLLED HIM. GOOD SHOOTIN GUN YOU SHOULD BE HAPPY WITH IT