The shells for 2012

[gobbler74]

I feel like these shells will put a hurtin on a bird inside 35 yards. Which is where I prefer my birds anyway

I'm with ya, kill most of mine 20-30yds, I'm sure they will do the trick on anything less than 40yds.


Don't see any advantage over lead other than being non-toxic which could make them multipurpose, have to see how they pattern.

Thats a good assessment. 

[mightyjoeyoung]

I feel like these shells will put a hurtin on a bird inside 35 yards. Which is where I prefer my birds anyway

I think their advertising statement "call them in close..." is a warning that you should get them closer than that before you try to shoot them with it.

Thank you!   

[HogBiologist]

I feel like these shells will put a hurtin on a bird inside 35 yards. Which is where I prefer my birds anyway

I think their advertising statement "call them in close..." is a warning that you should get them closer than that before you try to shoot them with it.

You stated on here a while back

If you keep your shots to under 30 yds, it doesn't matter what you shoot.  Walmart dove loads will kill them most of the time.

So a turkey is soo easy to kill anything can kill him 30yds but once you get to 35yds it takes something special? if as you say a walmart dove load will kill a turkey at 30yds then it's safe to say this will kill further.

I think he is referring to pattern density of a small payload.  not pellet energy.

[Gadget]

I think he is referring to pattern density of a small payload.  not pellet energy.
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I see they're making the 20ga in 1oz, 12 in 1 1/4 and 1 1/2oz, same size loads they sell in the Duck version, I've never patterned it but I know ppl who have and said it did hold a good pattern to 40yds. Does the Turkey version have the same wad, buffer, powder; or is it something different?  Prolly have to wait till ppl get some in hand to cut open and find out. Only diff I see in their lit is the velocity is slower with the Turkey version.

I think what they're doing here is trying to come out with a cheaper Turkey load while staying Eco friendly by staying away from lead, as they always have........hence the name "Environ"-metal. They don't see lead as an option, not a bad idea since lead is increasingly being banned. See they have the pheasant version now too. If it holds a pattern to 40yds I think it will be a viable turkey load for many.

[CallMaker]

I'll stick to my Federal Turkey Loads.....They have never failed me.  If I missed the shot it was my fault not the load I was using.

[Ruger M77]

If i want cheap turkey loads I'll go back to lead there's no way steel is better than lead even if these shells are half hevi 13

[Gadget]

Absolutely, categorically not interested.

I hear ya.....lol.


I'll buy some to pattern and dissect........ just outta curiosity, it won't be replacing any of my handloads I'm sure.

[GOLD HUNTER]

Absolutely, categorically not interested.

I hear ya.....lol.


I'll buy some to pattern and dissect........ just outta curiosity, it won't be replacing any of my handloads I'm sure.

you got that right Gadget....!

brian