2-3/4" vs 3" vs 3-1/2"

[TooTallOutdoorss]

Wassup everyone. Just wanted to say my gun specs and the reasons behind wanting to switch to TSS so I dont get the "you dont need TSS especially out of a 12" and "lead and copper has been killing em for years just call them closer to you" comments LOL.

I have a Girsan MC312 Gobbler 12 gauge and I am currently shooting longbeards 3" #6 with either a kicks choke or a carlsons longbeard choke. Really dont like the pattern its throwing passed 30 yds and the recoil leaves my arm numb for the rest of the day. Recoil I think is from a rock solid pad (changing soon) and the heavy loads. I have kids and friends wanting to get into hunting so I dont want them to have a bad first experience. Ive only ever killed one bird passed 40 and it was cause he busted me and was leaving town and I only had the morning to hunt. All others are under 25. Reason for wanting TSS is the lighter recoil and more pellets in the kill zone even at 40+ yards. NEVER going to willingly shoot one at that distance but I like having the confidence if I ever need to again and having more pellets at the closer distances will help my newbies and me if a branch or two gets in the way that we didnt notice.


Ive seen some big companies now making 2-3/4" TSS and from what Ive read they promote lighter recoil but just as effective as the longer shells in killing birds. My question is are the 2-3/4" shells actually that effective and what is the big difference between the 3" and the 2-3/4" tss? Is it just pellet count? Do the 2-3/4 have the same amount of power? Anyone with experience with these id love to hear your thoughts.

[NOmad]

Biggest difference is pellet count. I have shot hundreds of different TSS loads and have never noticed a material difference in felt recoil within the same gauge. If you aren't trying to shoot past 40 then any turkey load sold today will have enough "power" to get the job done.

[Bowguy]

This seems a typical "magical" tss theory. Sometimes a tss load is heavier. That will prob kick more. Imo everyone needs to step back and consider the real advantages different sets up bring.

[TooTallOutdoorss]

Biggest difference is pellet count. I have shot hundreds of different TSS loads and have never noticed a material difference in felt recoil within the same gauge. If you aren't trying to shoot past 40 then any turkey load sold today will have enough "power" to get the job done.

So the longbeards I use have 1-3/4 oz and the shells I am looking at are the salt creek ammo 2-3/4" and they have 1-5/8oz. I know pellet count is the main difference but so I am not losing anything important by going to a small shell? That was my fear I didnt want to sacrifice power or anything for a quarter inch less of a shell.

[Dtrkyman]

1 5/8th OZ of 8.5 or 9 is all or even more than needed, patterns will hold up to longer distances than most would consider shooting, your shoulder will thank you!


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[NOmad]

Biggest difference is pellet count. I have shot hundreds of different TSS loads and have never noticed a material difference in felt recoil within the same gauge. If you aren't trying to shoot past 40 then any turkey load sold today will have enough "power" to get the job done.

So the longbeards I use have 1-3/4 oz and the shells I am looking at are the salt creek ammo 2-3/4" and they have 1-5/8oz. I know pellet count is the main difference but so I am not losing anything important by going to a small shell? That was my fear I didnt want to sacrifice power or anything for a quarter inch less of a shell.

No, not losing anything important. Remember, people are killing turkeys stone dead from 20-35 yards all season long with .410's. Any turkey load you put in your gun, regardless of pellet material and assuming the gun is patterned well and intentionally, is going to get the job done. The number one difference maker when it comes to turkey loads are the shots you choose to take - take smart, appropriate shots and you can kill him with a Red Ryder.

[TooTallOutdoorss]

1 5/8th OZ of 8.5 or 9 is all or even more than needed, patterns will hold up to longer distances than most would consider shooting, your shoulder will thank you!


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Thats what i keep hearing! But I cant seem to find 1-5/8 OZ in TSS for a reasonable price. Herters had the 2-3/4" shells that were similar but it appears they discontinued them and the Foxtrots are $100 plus

[Hook hanger]

Most tss loaders are loading 2-2.25oz 3" 12ga. Those will definitely kick harder than a load with 1.75oz. You won't notice much difference in recoil till you go down to a sub guage with a smaller pay load. As for a 2.75" 12ga yes they have plenty of killing power way out there they will have about the same recoil though.

[TooTallOutdoorss]

Most tss loaders are loading 2-2.25oz 3" 12ga. Those will definitely kick harder than a load with 1.75oz. You won't notice much difference in recoil till you go down to a sub guage with a smaller pay load. As for a 2.75" 12ga yes they have plenty of killing power way out there they will have about the same recoil though.

Yeah i dont know why that is when supposedly you dont need more then 1-5/8 OZ

[Hook hanger]

Most tss loaders are loading 2-2.25oz 3" 12ga. Those will definitely kick harder than a load with 1.75oz. You won't notice much difference in recoil till you go down to a sub guage with a smaller pay load. As for a 2.75" 12ga yes they have plenty of killing power way out there they will have about the same recoil though.

Yeah i dont know why that is when supposedly you dont need more then 1-5/8 OZ

It takes too much fillers in wad to take up space. I have a 2.125oz load for 2.75" 12ga. That doesn't take filler at 1150fps. 3" is just for show with tss.