20 gauge lead load

[Dtrkyman]

Dude has pics of 1.5oz of lead he is loading and a couple companies offering loads now as well.

Windy hill has lead 7s as an option.


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[turkeykiller41]

Lead is 11.3 g/cm and tss is 18+ g,/cm depending on the exact alloy composition.  In short not much more than the 1 1/4 oz of lead will fit in the shell. 

If a 1 1/4 oz is all that will fit,how do explain the Windy Hill 1 7/16 oz load and the other guys 1 1/2 oz load of 6s.

[Gooserbat]

Lead is 11.3 g/cm and tss is 18+ g,/cm depending on the exact alloy composition.  In short not much more than the 1 1/4 oz of lead will fit in the shell. 

If a 1 1/4 oz is all that will fit,how do explain the Windy Hill 1 7/16 oz load and the other guys 1 1/2 oz load of 6s.

It's wad volume.  First not all wads have the same internal volume.  Second an ounce of tss is a different volume than an ounce of lead shot.  Two different factors dictating outcome of an equation.

[chipper]

I load a 1 3/8 ounce load with BPI 2092 wad that shoots good. You can get 1.5 in that wad but barely.

[turkeykiller41]

Lead is 11.3 g/cm and tss is 18+ g,/cm depending on the exact alloy composition.  In short not much more than the 1 1/4 oz of lead will fit in the shell. 

If a 1 1/4 oz is all that will fit,how do explain the Windy Hill 1 7/16 oz load and the other guys 1 1/2 oz load of 6s.

It's wad volume.  First not all wads have the same internal volume.  Second an ounce of tss is a different volume than an ounce of lead shot.  Two different factors dictating outcome of an equation.Thank You.

[turkeykiller41]

What kind of numbers did they get with the Jebs 560

[patternfreak]

Lead is 11.3 g/cm and tss is 18+ g,/cm depending on the exact alloy composition.  In short not much more than the 1 1/4 oz of lead will fit in the shell. 

If a 1 1/4 oz is all that will fit,how do explain the Windy Hill 1 7/16 oz load and the other guys 1 1/2 oz load of 6s.

It's wad volume.  First not all wads have the same internal volume.  Second an ounce of tss is a different volume than an ounce of lead shot.  Two different factors dictating outcome of an equation.

1.5oz of Nickel Plated Lead with 15 grains of Mix 47 buffer fits like a glove in a 3" TPS wad. Not a single pellet above the rim of the wad. Could honestly bump it up to 1-9/16oz with less buffer if you wanted to.

The reason there aren't any mass produced loads over 1.25oz is because lead load development took a major backseat when TSS came to the market. Really, the past 10 years of shotshell load development for most companies has consisted of something to do with TSS or another heavyweight shot material.

I'm going to develop some lead loads that will let us give China the middle finger and utilize shot we can buy right here in the USA for $5 per pound or less. 3 loads went out for testing this week. 1.5oz 20ga 3", 2oz 12ga 3", and 2-5/8oz 10ga.

[turkeykiller41]

Lead is 11.3 g/cm and tss is 18+ g,/cm depending on the exact alloy composition.  In short not much more than the 1 1/4 oz of lead will fit in the shell. 

If a 1 1/4 oz is all that will fit,how do explain the Windy Hill 1 7/16 oz load and the other guys 1 1/2 oz load of 6s.

It's wad volume.  First not all wads have the same internal volume.  Second an ounce of tss is a different volume than an ounce of lead shot.  Two different factors dictating outcome of an equation.

1.5oz of Nickel Plated Lead with 15 grains of Mix 47 buffer fits like a glove in a 3" TPS wad. Not a single pellet above the rim of the wad. Could honestly bump it up to 1-9/16oz with less buffer if you wanted to.

The reason there aren't any mass produced loads over 1.25oz is because lead load development took a major backseat when TSS came to the market. Really, the past 10 years of shotshell load development for most companies has consisted of something to do with TSS or another heavyweight shot material.

I'm going to develop some lead loads that will let us give China the middle finger and utilize shot we can buy right here in the USA for $5 per pound or less. 3 loads went out for testing this week. 1.5oz 20ga 3", 2oz 12ga 3", and 2-5/8oz 10ga.

[Jbird22]

1.5oz of lead fits like a glove in 20ga loads. I have no clue why there aren't more loads out there. I plan to send one out for testing in my next shipment to Precision.

This is 1.5oz of lead with 15 grains of Mix 47 buffer. Not a single pellet above the wad, easy fold crimp. Should pattern great with the full wad containment.

1.5oz of 6's has basically the same pellet count as 2oz of 5's. If you can commit to a 40 yard max range this should be a fantastic 20ga turkey load.

Also working on 1-5/8oz or 1-3/4oz in a roll crimp for 16ga...

That is a very nice fold, sir. Well done!