I had very different results with the Apex ammo and when I contacted them they talked to me as if I were a moron. I am quite dumb, but still don't like to be talked down to. All I had to go on were the results and the Apex were not good out of my Stoeger or my SKB. My best results with TSS are with my own loads. Commercial ammo is with Salt Creek and Foxtrot. But I am not paying the ridiculous prices for that anymore. I have enough for a few year and I will try the 15 gm/cm3 stuff as a fallback. The 15 gm stuff is what the Federal Heavyweights were using so I know it will kill turkeys as far as I will shoot at one.
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