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Missouri Nonresident tag jump again.

Started by Fullfan, February 13, 2026, 07:21:14 AM

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mdmitchell

Quote from: arkrem870 on February 13, 2026, 07:28:20 AMMy home state of Arkansas did the same. Cut non residents to one turkey and charge $300+. Missouri is following our lead. Both states already had a one turkey limit for the first week.

It's terrible for hunters and isn't backed by any research or data. States and their resident hunters have got to chill out a bit on taking away hunter opportunities.
90% of non resident hunters are hunting public in these states. Which means they're cramming into limited space.  If non resident pressure was spread out, it wouldn't be quite the issue.

As someone who has seen YouTube blow up the public in my state, I'm praying for changes to delay the non resident start or limit tags.

Limited resource, high demand.

ddturkeyhunter1

Reciprocity; I wish WI, MN, and what ever state that isn't gouging the hunter would take advantage of Reciprocity. You pay the same as the state you come from.  And that includes only taking one bird and less days to do it. 


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CALLM2U

Quote from: sasquatch1 on February 18, 2026, 07:45:17 PM
Quote from: CALLM2U on February 18, 2026, 02:50:21 PM
Quote from: sasquatch1 on February 18, 2026, 10:51:02 AM
Quote from: CALLM2U on February 18, 2026, 08:19:59 AM"Death by a thousand cuts" but YouTubers are completely to blame  ;D

Didn't Fact check it, but it's likely true


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Statistics 101.  Correlation doesn't equal causation. 

There was something that happened around 2020.... Something kinda big that put everyone out of work to find a new hobby that is AMAZING and fun!
So only that correlation is causation?? Lol

I guarantee if it was covid, it was because they had time to first watch the videos to realize it was possible.

People didn't sit home and say "hey man let's go hunt the public land we always were scared to go too"


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The world changed with COVID.  Looking at a small sample size of your friends isn't a scientific view. 

But since most people are lazy (not saying you specifically but for anyone who may read this)  I'll provide some actual data on this event. 

Roughly two‑thirds of Americans reported having more time for hobbies during the pandemic, averaging over six hours per week. - https://magazine.wsu.edu/2025/01/31/hobbies-going-viral/?utm


A Rutgers study found that many people turned to new pursuits like exercise, outdoor activities, and hobbies as coping strategies instead of unhealthy habits - https://www.rutgers.edu/news/hobbies-and-healthy-habits-surged-during-pandemic?utm

One survey reported that nearly two thirds of Americans picked up a new hobby, and almost 80% intended to continue those hobbies after the pandemic. - https://www.vitalitygroup.com/insights/what-ever-happened-to-your-pandemic-hobby/?utm

sasquatch1

2/3rds said they had more time for hobbies?? Yea the same ones who were already hunting

I do and know many people who travel all over hunting many species, I just about never run into new traveling hunters that aren't all about THP.

I've never once heard "yea man since Covid I really like hunting.

I've run into a ton wearing THP gear mentioning things they've watched on YouTube and how they ended up in locations


I bet MANY others will chime in and mention the same.

How can COVID and videos pop up relatively close to the same time yet you THINK YouTube had no impact but covid is all of the impact? These videos have sometimes hundreds of thousands of views. Many from people trying to figure out where they at so they can go.

I hunt where THP started videoing in the south. They name people that it's very easy to know where they at. I've watched the crowds come in the following years. 

If anything Covid just gave them time to research places to hunt, THROUGH YouTube.


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NOmad

Quote from: sasquatch1 on February 19, 2026, 06:41:11 PM2/3rds said they had more time for hobbies?? Yea the same ones who were already hunting

I do and know many people who travel all over hunting many species, I just about never run into new traveling hunters that aren't all about THP.

I've never once heard "yea man since Covid I really like hunting.

I've run into a ton wearing THP gear mentioning things they've watched on YouTube and how they ended up in locations


I bet MANY others will chime in and mention the same.

How can COVID and videos pop up relatively close to the same time yet you THINK YouTube had no impact but covid is all of the impact? These videos have sometimes hundreds of thousands of views. Many from people trying to figure out where they at so they can go.

I hunt where THP started videoing in the south. They name people that it's very easy to know where they at. I've watched the crowds come in the following years. 

If anything Covid just gave them time to research places to hunt, THROUGH YouTube.


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CALLM2U

Quote from: sasquatch1 on February 19, 2026, 06:41:11 PM2/3rds said they had more time for hobbies?? Yea the same ones who were already hunting

I do and know many people who travel all over hunting many species, I just about never run into new traveling hunters that aren't all about THP.

I've never once heard "yea man since Covid I really like hunting.

I've run into a ton wearing THP gear mentioning things they've watched on YouTube and how they ended up in locations


I bet MANY others will chime in and mention the same.

How can COVID and videos pop up relatively close to the same time yet you THINK YouTube had no impact but covid is all of the impact? These videos have sometimes hundreds of thousands of views. Many from people trying to figure out where they at so they can go.

I hunt where THP started videoing in the south. They name people that it's very easy to know where they at. I've watched the crowds come in the following years. 

If anything Covid just gave them time to research places to hunt, THROUGH YouTube.


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So you didn't read the articles?  Or are you just choosing to go with your feelings over data? 

2/3rds of people picked up a NEW, hobby.  NEW. You know, like deer hunters who picked up turkey hunting (because it's awesome) 

I travel the country as well and I've rarely meet anyone who mentions THP.  So I guess our experiences cancel each other out, huh?  Do you see how invalid that viewpoint is?  You have to go with data, and the data all points to that having a bunch of time off to explore new hobbies during the pandemic changed our world. 

But I guess you're free to only consider your feelings and opinions rather than pursue data, facts and truth. 

Best of luck to you. 


sasquatch1

Just say you love your fav tuber.

If covid did it why have state agencies hired several of the YouTubers to advertise hunting opportunities in their area??

I mean hell everyone was running to the woods because they was off work.

Those same agencies had to change the rules on non residents within 2-3 years of hiring the YouTubers.

I'm partially guilty of it myself, I got into elk hunting partly from one of the groups way back. You heard me, the YouTubers, BEFORE COVID was even a thought


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sasquatch1

I'm sure this has NOTHING to do with crowds. I also bet NO ONE clicked on it because it is LA, one of the harder places to bag a public bird for the chasing 49 people




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deerhunt1988

"Hi, my name is Joe. COVID gave me free time to discover turkey hunting. I almost killed a bird my first year. Got one my second year and celebrated it by smoking a cigar. Such a cool, unique idea huh? HAHA! I've since spent thousands on traveling to other states trying to get my first non-resident turkey. South Florida, the Black Hills, Montana. Those states just called to me. I really can't explain it. I think it would be really neat to kill a turkey in 49 states. We could call it a Super Slam!"

According to poster above.  :TooFunny: