best tss alternative stoeger 3020 to 40 yds

[zelmo1]

The Federal #7 Heavyweights were great 20 gauge ammo. The longbeards are great lead, but if you compare them to TSS you will be very sad. They should give you a 35 yard gun with the right setup. But make no mistake, you can't beat a 12 gauge if you shoot lead. It's just physics, you can't fight science. Z

[the Ward]

a twelve gauge

[bbcoach]

a twelve gauge

Agreed.  With TSS prices rising, the 20 and 410 are becoming obsolete in the turkey woods unless you want to keep them inside 30 yards ethically.  Many jumped on the TSS bandwagon a few short years ago and now not so much.  With a 12, you have plenty of choices for cheaper ammo that will get you to that magical 40-yard mark and slightly beyond.  If you have stocked up on 20 TSS, you'll be OK for a few years, but I don't see TSS shot coming back down.  Good luck with your search.

[BeerCheese]

I still think lbxr is the best lead load if you're wanting maximum distance but I've only ever gotten the #6 to pattern well to 40 yards with a 20 gauge. Granted they don't have the stopping power so I would be careful not to stretch it beyond 35-40. They shoot well through a .570 tight wad

[Ihuntoldschool]

You got 3 options.

1, Call them into 35 yards not 40 and shoot any 20 gauge turkey load you want.

2, Pay the inflated TSS prices and be good to 40

3, Get a 12 Gauge and shoot any turkey load you can get your hands on out to 40 yards.

[Greg Massey]

I'm going to make a guess and say most people on this forum all started with a 10 / 12 gauge and still have them. Federal HW 7 - 20 gauge and people on this forum got me to try a 20 gauge. From that point on I was hooked.
TSS and seeing the results and patterns /  reading on this forum got me hooked on Sub gauges in both 410 and 28 gauge, for the last few years I have REALLY enjoyed the 28 ga... But I never waited until I needed turkey shells to buy turkey shells.

So I have a good stock of old Federal 12 ga. 2oz. number 5 and 6 shot and plenty of sub gauge TSS to never have to buy and more shells period.. Alone with Long beards in 12 and 20 ga.

[Brian Stewart]

Ive been experimenting with #7 nickel plated lead.  Seems very promising.

[crow]

Ive been experimenting with #7 nickel plated lead.  Seems very promising.

Should be a good load.
I sometimes hunt with 7.5 hard lead 1 1/8th oz trap loads in my close barrel in an old double, patterns good to about 33yds, head/neck penetration to 35.

A heavier load of your 7's should be good past that

[BeerCheese]

Ive been experimenting with #7 nickel plated lead.  Seems very promising.

Should be a good load.
I sometimes hunt with 7.5 hard lead 1 1/8th oz trap loads in my close barrel in an old double, patterns good to about 33yds, head/neck penetration to 35.

A heavier load of your 7's should be good past that

I agree 7.5 lead works great in a double barrel setup for the close range barrel. Have killed multiple toms with prairie storm pheasant loads

[Poconodoghunter]

Went from 12 ,to 20. Now trying 410.
If your good enough u can get em in close ans still use your TSS

[turkeykiller41]

Remington has a new load called Final Strut,looks to be 12 gr #6 and #7 11/4 oz load.

[kytrkyhntr]

hevi 13 #7


tight choke and youll kill em as far away as you want

[Tom007]

Winchester made a turkey load back in early-mid 2000's called Winchester Supreme Elite. They called the shot "Environmental" shot. Best patterning non-TSS load I've ever used. They sold in boxes of 10 for around 35 bucks. Longbeard replaced this using copper plated lead. With TSS pries hitting the stratisfere, they should bring this back. I have a few boxes left, wis I had more....

[backwater]

Winchester made a turkey load back in early-mid 2000's called Winchester Supreme Elite. They called the shot "Environmental" shot. Best patterning non-TSS load I've ever used. They sold in boxes of 10 for around 35 bucks. Longbeard replaced this using copper plated lead. With TSS pries hitting the stratisfere, they should bring this back. I have a few boxes left, wis I had more....

The supreme elite was a quality load.  I shot the last ones I owned and switched over to the twenty's and TSS. 

[bbcoach]

hevi 13 #7


tight choke and youll kill em as far away as you want

I have a lifetime supply and shoot the first true Hevi-7 loads in my 835 12 gauge and they are devastating.  I still limit myself to 40 yards with a very little fudge factor.  Very, very impressive round but ALL ammo has its limitations ethically.