I've tried to get in touch with Billy off and on the past few years and never could get in touch with him. I don't know if he's still making calls or not. He post stuff for sale on eBay some so it could be stuff he had laying around or he just builds calls as he feels like it. I have 2 Alabama cacklers, never felt like I could run them proficiently enough to hunt with them. I'd love to see a video and hear a sound file of someone who could run one well