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I'm looking to get the tightest possible patterns with TSS I can

Started by DMTJAGER, April 16, 2025, 09:57:36 PM

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DMTJAGER

I have a IC .675 for my 22.5" 835 got pretty good 40 yard WLB/XR patterns but would like to know if a Pattermaster Code Black in .665" will give me tighter core patterns shooting Apex Ninja 2.5oz of #8.5 TSS VS the IC or end up with blown open patterns.

I havent been able to pattern my 835 with TSS yet due to much to awful range conditions last trip. I get awesome patterns with my 870 ESM and a .665 IC choke shooting same Apex Turkey Ninja shells wondering if the same will be true with my 835 and a .665 Pattermaster Code Black.

bbcoach

Here's my 2 cents.  I have an 835.  The 835 has been tested by many and it does its best work with chokes in the .670 to .676 with its over bored barrel.  The Remmy 870 tests show it patterns best with chokes around .665.  I can't attest to TSS but my 835 hammers birds with Hevi-13 7's.  I've been told that the 835 shoots TSS the best with a little more open choke not tighter.  If you go to a tighter choke like the .665 it may blow the pattern.  A test is the only way to know for sure. .005 may not seem like much but eventually .005 will be too much constriction. 

DMTJAGER

bbcoach
Thanks for the technical info on the 835 I didn't know 835's do their best work with a choke between .670 and .675.
I will give the .675 IC a try Tuesday. It did very well with WLB/XR 2oz #5 shot. Didn't count the pellets in the 10" circle but no doubt there were at least as many as my 870 puts in and that's in the 140ish neighborhood.

bbcoach

That IC .675 is a GREAT choke for the 835.  You are about perfectly balanced.  The chokes that do really well are the Pure Gold .670, the Sumtoy .675, the SSX .670, colonial .676 and the stardot .676 are just a few.  I'm not sure if you have deep cleaned and polished your barrel but it will make a difference in tightening your patterns.  I shoot the .670 Pure Gold, in my 835, with 2 1/4 oz Hevi 7's and she will put 300 plus in the 10 at 40.  Hope this helps.

DMTJAGER

Quote from: bbcoach on April 20, 2025, 01:29:44 PMThat IC .675 is a GREAT choke for the 835.  You are about perfectly balanced.  The chokes that do really well are the Pure Gold .670, the Sumtoy .675, the SSX .670, colonial .676 and the stardot .676 are just a few.  I'm not sure if you have deep cleaned and polished your barrel but it will make a difference in tightening your patterns.  I shoot the .670 Pure Gold, in my 835, with 2 1/4 oz Hevi 7's and she will put 300 plus in the 10 at 40.  Hope this helps.
I do not think I could possibly deep clean my turkey barrels more than what I do now.
I stand my barrels upright in a 5 gallon bucket drill  ahole in the center of the lid to keep the barrel reasonably plumb plug the muzzle end fill the barrel with acetone let soak overnight if a 12ga use a 20ga nylon bore bush wrapped in 100% copper chore boy saturate the barrel and bush in my home brew of "Big Ed's Red" to scrub the barrel, then with a one piece 30" brass range rod attach a 12ga phosphorus bronze bore brush chucked in my 20V Dwalt give the barrel a 2nd scrubbing finally I use a 20ga nylon bore brush wrapped in 000 steel wool saturated in Lucas Oil CLP saturate the barrel and give the barrel a good polishing. 

bbcoach

Quote from: DMTJAGER on April 21, 2025, 02:17:05 PM
Quote from: bbcoach on April 20, 2025, 01:29:44 PMThat IC .675 is a GREAT choke for the 835.  You are about perfectly balanced.  The chokes that do really well are the Pure Gold .670, the Sumtoy .675, the SSX .670, colonial .676 and the stardot .676 are just a few.  I'm not sure if you have deep cleaned and polished your barrel but it will make a difference in tightening your patterns.  I shoot the .670 Pure Gold, in my 835, with 2 1/4 oz Hevi 7's and she will put 300 plus in the 10 at 40.  Hope this helps.
I do not think I could possibly deep clean my turkey barrels more than what I do now.
I stand my barrels upright in a 5 gallon bucket drill  ahole in the center of the lid to keep the barrel reasonably plumb plug the muzzle end fill the barrel with acetone let soak overnight if a 12ga use a 20ga nylon bore bush wrapped in 100% copper chore boy saturate the barrel and bush in my home brew of "Big Ed's Red" to scrub the barrel, then with a one piece 30" brass range rod attach a 12ga phosphorus bronze bore brush chucked in my 20V Dwalt give the barrel a 2nd scrubbing finally I use a 20ga nylon bore brush wrapped in 000 steel wool saturated in Lucas Oil CLP saturate the barrel and give the barrel a good polishing. 
That should work.  I use a 20 gauge bore brush with 1 wrap of green scotch brite and apply a good amount of JB Bore paste and saturate with Kroil.  Work it in and out with a slow speed battery powered drill for 5 to 10 minutes.  Polishes the barrel to a mirror shine inside.  Let me know how the patterning session goes.  Check your POA/POI with a dove load at 12 to 13 yards first to see if the barrel is true.  Mine shot 4 inches right and 4 inches down so I added a Bushnell Trophy Red dot on top to correct that.  Make sure you use 30 by 30 inch paper so you can see exactly where the core is hitting.