New Turkey gun setup

[Canadian]

Sounds nice, but why TSS in a 12 gauge?  You can shoot #6 or #5 and smoke one at 40 yards.  Not being critical, just curious. 

As someone who has both 20ga and 12ga, and loads/shoots TSS for both, ill merely share my perspective to your curiosity.

For me, i just feel as though i owe it to the bird. Ill pay the extra money EVERY shot in order to minimize human error and ensure ethical, lights out shots for the bird. I once took a guy hunting who had never killed a bird, but had missed 4 prior (lots of issues and red flags here, i know). I invited him over, he patterned his gun with 3" XRs, was shooting good, and we were off to the races. Next morning he missed his 5th bird (and this is no exaggeration) at 30 yards, right in the sweet spot. Though, he didnt miss him clean. Definitely hurt the innocent bird.

At the time i had a 20ga equiped with a red dot, and i told him to shoot it, but jokingly said "you owe me $10 if you take a shot". He said "ill just stick with my gun then." This spoke volumes to me and told me what he thought of the wild turkey. Its safe to say thats the last time i hunted with him. A clean kill is worth a $10+ shot every time.

Now, i will say, we are humans, and mistakes/misses happen. However, out of respect for the bird, i will 100% shoot TSS every time, if it decreases the odds of human error playing into a potentially wounded bird. I dont shoot to increase my range, but to ensure a clean ethical kill when i nick a twig i didnt see. Ill shoot TSS out of my 12ga every day of the week.

Anybody would be an ignorant liar to say they arent prone to mistakes. I will also note im not against lead either. Im just answering your question as to why TSS out of 12ga. I loathe the idea of seeing another bird get hurt. I think it would make me pass out. I cant stomache seeing another one.

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This is an older post but I just read it and gotta respond. You're thinking silly. TSS is never gonna kill them deader. Why are you only talking about a 12? By your theory a 10 might give you more ability to make those mistakes?
It's not about that. It's about staying within effective range of the weapon no matter what it's shooting. I've been involved in plenty of totally dead and respectfully shot turkey w 20 ga and lead.
My next thought was your assumption the guy thought badly of the turkey cause he didn't want to spend 10 bucks a shell.
Some fellas mamas didn't raise them that dumb.
Bear in mind I was of that mindset. My child support has ended, freed up some cash. I've got two guns out of 11 turkey guns now shooting tss. Doesn't make them superior. Ones a 410 another a 20 that I fretted over if I should try tss in it.
Sounds like you expect everyone to think the way you do? There's nothing superior about someone's gun shooting tss, they both have effective range. The mistake is not knowing it and staying within it. If you can't judge get a rangefinder. 
Now/how did the guy miss 30 yards? One, chances got better of that once he shot longbeards. They're too tight many times.
Two you watched and helped him. You mean you couldn't see what was wrong? Was he shooting poa? Did he need to adjust gun? Was he lifting head?
Flinching? Etc etc
Tell him to post on here his issues. I bet we can help him

I started off by saying "ill merely share my perspective" meaning, by no means do i believe that my way is the only way. I have plenty of friends who still shoot lead, and do it effectively. To simplify my thought process, we are human, and we make mistakes. I think its best i do everything i can to reduce human error. For me, i use an xfull 'flush mount' choke of .700 out of my BPS to open up the pattern from a .665 ext. choke, and i shoot TSS to increase its payload count, without sacrificing energy. I do NOT do this as a means of extending my guns range, i do this to reduce errors associated with poa/poi, structure that wasnt seen (twigs, trees, brush), or misjudged distance (thinking its 35 but its 40). By your theory, practice makes perfect. But the reality is, none of us are perfect, especially when, for some of us, that blood starts pumping.

I see what youre saying though, in that TSS doesnt solve all the problems associated with this guys mistakes. There had to be a lot more going on there as far as mistakes go than simply what he was shooting. I was just using this story to illustrate my personal beliefs in increasing pattern size and payload capacity for those times that we otherwise wouldve just missed and wounded. I dont have all the answers, but these are simply some of the experiences ive had that have shaped my personal thought process.

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