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Shooting Jakes ??
Shooting Jakes ??
Started by Yoder409, March 27, 2024, 06:54:29 AM
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Yoder409
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Shooting Jakes ??
March 27, 2024, 06:54:29 AM
Just that.
Under what circumstances do you or would you shoot a jake ??
Never ??
If it's the last day or two and you have an unfilled tag ??
Whenever you see one ??
Something other ??
Just curious.........
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The good Lord ain't made a gobbler I can't kill. I just gotta be there at the right time..... on the day he wants to die.
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March 27, 2024, 06:57:56 AM
Me ??
I can only think of one occasion, now, where I would shoot a jake.
My younger son is a special needs individual. I am TRYING to get him to try turkey hunting. I won't push. But, IF at some point he'd go.........and we could double........ I'd shoot regardless of whether they were jakes or longbeards.
Other than that......... never.
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The good Lord ain't made a gobbler I can't kill. I just gotta be there at the right time..... on the day he wants to die.
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March 27, 2024, 07:00:21 AM
If I did it would be a total accident. If my young son decides he wants to, I would be ok with it. We wouldn't make a habit out of it.
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March 27, 2024, 07:04:55 AM
Just for a memory. If my grandchild wanted to shoot one and I could double with them, I might do it. For myself, I don't need to shoot Jake's. I take a lot of young or new hunters. If they want to take one, I have no issue with it. Z
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March 27, 2024, 07:15:32 AM
When I started Turkey hunting long ago, I harvested a few Jake's. Birds were plentiful in my early years. Today, I let them pass. Population decreases and pressure in my areas led me to the decision to harvest gobblers only. This is just the way I hunt now, there is no right or wrong here IMO. Jake's can provide a thrilling hunt for those who choose to harvest them.....
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March 27, 2024, 07:44:39 AM
I think the advice given to me by a wise older deer hunter regarding deer also applies to turkeys. "The first rule for shooting big bucks is don't shoot little bucks.' Just substitute turkey.
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March 27, 2024, 07:47:15 AM
Only when its a case of mistaken identity.
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March 27, 2024, 07:50:18 AM
I don't shoot jakes, unfortunately through the years have killed two or three by mistake.
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March 27, 2024, 07:52:25 AM
I want a bird to gobble and come to the call, that is my main criteria. When we had a two bird limit I would occasionally shoot a Jake if he met that criteria, but it wasn't something I done the first 10 days of season. It has been years since I shot one. I would always shoot an adult bird with my other tag. The only reason I exclude jakes is because they are the seed for the future, it has nothing to do with a bird's beard, spur, body size or trophy value. However, if I find myself at the end of season and I am having a hard time filling a tag I will shoot a nice big jake in a heartbeat, I intend to have a turkey to eat. We enjoy eating them and the meat has more value then the feathers, spurs and beards in my house. In the end I hunt turkeys for that interaction between me and him, a jake can fulfill that just as easy as a longbeard. I always tell people who hunt with me to shoot whatever they want. Biologically there's no science says passing on jakes makes more turkeys that I know of. All other game bird species we shoot adults and juveniles the same and their populations are not devastated by it, like pheasants. I have a few questions to ask on this as well. Why do we look at a Jake differently and pass on them. There has been a lot of discussion on scoring in that thread. Are we applying trophy standards to not shooting jakes, in other words are we embarrassed over shooting a jake. I admit they are a bit more gullible, but often a lot of fun. If a birds score is not important then why pass Jakes, other then leaving them for the future.
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March 27, 2024, 08:35:51 AM
This year Jakes are next year gobblers. But never say never... IMO
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March 27, 2024, 08:39:17 AM
First turkey 30 years ago was a Jake. Have killed a few thru the years but any in the last 20 years were a case of mistaken identity (2 I can think of). I'd have to be on the verge of starvation to knowingly shoot a Jake today
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March 27, 2024, 08:45:22 AM
Negative
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March 27, 2024, 08:53:06 AM
Personally I'm past it. New hunters I get it, especially with a kid on a limited schedule but if there's a chance to hunt tomorrow let them walk. Learn from the experience and enjoy your time afield.
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March 27, 2024, 08:53:49 AM
Shot one ever, he gobbled like a man at the end of season, was really thick and only saw his head, he got it, shocked he was a jake.
One other time I was just about to do the same, thick again late season, fortunately he jumped up on a log to get a better look.
I don't care if someone shoots Jake's, they just aren't the same experience most times!
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March 27, 2024, 08:55:44 AM
Never! I view jakes as most do, as seed for next year. They are also very easily called into a setup and seem to have not fully developed their senses of apprehension and caution. Even if it's the last day of the season and I haven't killed a bird I wouldn't shoot a jake. My desire to fill a tag is not that important compared to the possibility of hearing that same jake blowing it out next season as a two year old. On property that I manage and control, a jake can be taken only if it's someone's first bird. As for others, it's a legal bird and I have no problem with anyone shooting one. It's an individual choice each has to make for themselves. If you're enjoying the hunt and are content to harvest a jake, there's no shame in doing so. It's just not for me or compatible with the goals for the property I manage.
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