State Bag Limits- Too Many Or Too Few?

[sasquatch1]

Simple question, unanswered, that has nothing to do with the number of children or other states.

We all know the likely answer, I just wanted to see if you'd claim it.

And by chasing the kids limits first maybe you don't by default vs choice.

If you hunt Ms so little, why be so invested to want residents cut by 33% and NR cut by 66%.

Also, kids pretty much have school so you have 5 days a week to hunt for yourself for the most part.


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[slave601]

For one.... My kids "spring break" lands our youth and opening week. Secondly they home school so they can hunt as much as possible. And hunting "so little" of Mississippi? We hunt from the youth opener till usually April 11th. That's around 5 weeks. You're trying to call me something you have no business calling someone you don't know. You're assuming and reaching. The original topic was too many or too less tags. Go point your theory's and accusations elsewhere

[sasquatch1]

You don't self impose what you preach for

Got it


Also, in your travels why not go to MO over TN? They now have the limits you like

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[slave601]

You don't self impose what you preach for

Got it


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You don't self impose what you preach for

Got it


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I have better things to do then defend myself against a keyboard warrior that has no idea who I am. You clearly missed the whole topic and started finger pointing at someone you have no idea who they are. Tennessee opens before Missouri and I hunt Missouri as I have done for 20ish years now every year. Have a nice day and good luck to you this season 👍🏼

[sasquatch1]

Keyboard warrior?

I typed one question that has STILL not be answered.

A simple moral question, do you practice what you preach is all.


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[Davyalabama]

Go back to 6 starting on the 15th ending last day of April --- no decoys, no prefabricated blinds, nothing but lead/copper shot or bows -- harsher penalties for baiting

[Bowguy]

NJ recently closed the fall season. I'm hearing rumors from good sources about at least one zone closing and an actual season limit.
We need to start bobcat trapping and take the birds of prey off the untouchable list. They kill lots poults.
One point of consideration.. We are sportsman. We originally asked for limits and regs. We can be conscious of issues and self limit. Ask someone about that it'll be a foreign concept to most.
If the state "game managers" can't respond quickly enough we can. Guys wanna keep hunting, shoot one bird than take a kid. It's much harder and will be less impact

[WLT III]

Baiting, TSS, and youtube, has taken its toll on turkeys, more than any other factors. Anyone who cannot realize that, has no ability to reason.  My personal self imposed limit, is 4 longbeards, Spring and Fall combined. I eat everything on them, and 4 will carry me thru a year, Although I have turkeys on my own land, as well as neighbors, my satisfaction has always come from killing on public ground. No self respecting turkey hunter would kill his own turkeys, at least in the circle I run in

[eggshell]

No self respecting turkey hunter would kill his own turkeys

In my circle that depends. Between myself and family we own approximately 1400 acres of turkey habitat. I do kill birds off that land and leave the public for those who don't have private. What we do though is take inventory and estimate our flock and set a property limit. Most years we keep it to 3-4 gobblers harvested, we have taken as many as 6, but that was in really strong years and only about 20% of the mature gobblers on the property. So yes we have practiced self imposed limits for years. I think you could take 30% of the mature gobblers and be ok. Yet we still saw a decline on one side of the farm, so our management was not a guarantee of flock stability. Its intensely managed habitat too. Actually my cousin won National Tree farm of the year several years ago and was honored by at the white house by George Bush. The habitat and management has been in place and still we lost a big chunk of the flock. That's why I believe disease and nest predators are more the culprit then over-harvet. Last year we took 2 gobblers and our inventory was 20+.

[WLT III]

Not knocking anyone who does, especially on that much ground, but I just can't target gobblers that I see almost everyday, year round. Sounds like you have a good management plan though    

[eggshell]

Not knocking anyone who does, especially on that much ground, but I just can't target gobblers that I see almost everyday, year round. Sounds like you have a good management plan though    

Thanks we take pride in our land

[Swampmonkey]

Never understood the over satisfaction and self congratulations of "yeah killed that one on public". lol. Who cares?

[GobbleNut]

As turkey hunters, my advice would be to just take the time to observe what is happening where you hunt...and then, perhaps, adjust your attitude towards killing turkeys accordingly.

Where I hunt, over the last decade or so, here is what I have witnessed. Every year I hear (and see) fewer and fewer gobblers. In pretty much every area of the public land I hunt, where once I could almost assuredly hear multiple gobblers in the morning on any day of the season, I am now maybe hearing a single bird...and more regularly, none at all. Simply put, there are, without question, fewer gobblers in our woods.

At the same time, I am also seeing more and more hunters pursuing the remaining gobblers...and with equipment and tactics that are much more effective than those used over the previous several decades. There is absolutely no question that there is a direct correlation between the decline in gobbler numbers with the increase in hunter numbers and their effectiveness.

Fellers, that bothers me.  As a turkey hunter, I WANT to hear those gobblers...and KNOW that they are there. If I don't, I want SOMETHING to be done about it...and personally, if that means I have less opportunity in terms of such things as season lengths and bag limits, so be it.

Sure, I want those restrictions to be based on science (to a degree), but when I can see with my own eyes what is happening...and clearly as a result of that increased pressure on the resource...it is time for changes, both in management...and my attitude about my approach to killing gobblers without some level of consciousness. 

[Hook hanger]

As turkey hunters, my advice would be to just take the time to observe what is happening where you hunt...and then, perhaps, adjust your attitude towards killing turkeys accordingly.

Where I hunt, over the last decade or so, here is what I have witnessed. Every year I hear (and see) fewer and fewer gobblers. In pretty much every area of the public land I hunt, where once I could almost assuredly hear multiple gobblers in the morning on any day of the season, I am now maybe hearing a single bird...and more regularly, none at all. Simply put, there are, without question, fewer gobblers in our woods.

At the same time, I am also seeing more and more hunters pursuing the remaining gobblers...and with equipment and tactics that are much more effective than those used over the previous several decades. There is absolutely no question that there is a direct correlation between the decline in gobbler numbers with the increase in hunter numbers and their effectiveness.

Fellers, that bothers me.  As a turkey hunter, I WANT to hear those gobblers...and KNOW that they are there. If I don't, I want SOMETHING to be done about it...and personally, if that means I have less opportunity in terms of such things as season lengths and bag limits, so be it.

Sure, I want those restrictions to be based on science (to a degree), but when I can see with my own eyes what is happening...and clearly as a result of that increased pressure on the resource...it is time for changes, both in management...and my attitude about my approach to killing gobblers without some level of consciousness. 

There is alot to this and have seen this in alot of areas across this country I have hunted for many years. In my opinion limits are one part of it but the biggest factor in my opinion that would help would be a reduction in season length and time allocated in the day to hunt. In the early years of Missouri's spring turkey hunting i think they had it correctly "2 week season and only one tag for each 7 day period 1pm closure and no youth season". There were more turkeys during that time frame than what they proclaim was the peak population (which they based off of kills) which happened when season was lengthened to 3 weeks and youth was added and could kill 2 birds in consecutive days starting second weak

[Davyalabama]

GobbleNut, for sure it is a huge fascination for killing turkeys, now.  I was one of the few, young, turkey hunters back in my preteen, teenage and even twenties.  Yeah, some kid would kill one in a field his dad owned, or in a neighbors field, very few turkey hunted.  It has exploded.

What has also exploded is the way timber companies have these new skidders that can demolish a stand of trees in mere days that used to take us months.  I know, I started in the logging business at 13, by 14 was cutting up on the loading group, by 15 cutting trees down.            The timber growing has also changed, today, "let's clear cut it all, replant, grow for several years, thin, clear cut it again. 

I also agree, we, as hunters, need to determine what should be taken off the land.  If your land doesn't have many turkey's, why, oh why, are you going to kill every long beard you can?    Now I understand, neighbors, predators, weather are all going to take some too, but we have "dominion" over the animals, that give us a responsibility in this pursuit.