I'm too cheap for TSS. When I had an 835, I used 3 1/2" Longbeard with no 6 shot and used a Longbeard choke. I'm not saying some other choke and/or load wouldn't have worked "better", but I was able to kill turkey as far as I thought was ethically possible. I only sold the 835 after a friend gave up hunting due to health issues and sold me his Mossberg 935.