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What About This Idea On The Out Of State Hunter?

Started by mountainhunter1, April 27, 2023, 04:41:18 PM

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mountainhunter1

Quote from: joey46 on May 02, 2023, 10:51:45 AM
Eliminate OOS at all cost and the problem is solved.  All these OOS comments have become self-serving and silly.  I, having completed a FL season on 4/23, may go north for a second hunt.  No longer worth posting details or results.  Hypocrisy at it's finest.
Add  - after years of wishing and planning finally hit a western state last May.  Does that mean I must hunt 40+ other states before returning to this one ?  Get real. A one bird limit in ANY state would solve most concerned.  A resident limit over two is a political cave in.

Again, I really do not care if you or anyone else hunts every state in the Union each year except for one thing - the wild turkey is in trouble. There is just so much disagreement about this that I simply offered a somewhat reasonable idea which would work easily if the states had any common sense whatsoever and would work together (working together with each state is really the only way to resolve this at this point anyway if we desire to save the Wild Turkey). But some of the responders are absolutely correct, that is the last thing that the states will probably do - which is to work together.

But my idea did not say that you had to hunt 40+ states before returning to the one you started with. What was suggested was that if you killed a bird in said state this year, you would not be able to hunt said state the following season, but could resume it again the year after. But that being said, if you wanted to hunt 40+ states in the meantime while you took a year off on the state or states you killed in last season under that proposal, then I would encourage you to knock yourself.

But I am totally against eliminating out of state hunting at all cost. And I doubt there are many at all who truly want something anywhere near that extreme for the spring turkey season going forward. 


"I said to the Lord, "You are my Master! Everything good thing I have comes from You." (Psalm 16:2)

Romans 6:23, Romans 10:13

joey46

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The states are not going to work together on this.  It is a pipe dream.  The only reasonable solution is the shortening of seasons and the reduction in bag limits.  Quota hunts for public land are coming for residents and OOS alike in the majority of eastern and southern states.  Get ready for them.  After experiencing Florida's system for the past 18 years, even with preference points, a good WMA draw takes 3 to 5 years.  A big "nice going" to states such as Ohio that reduced the limit to ONE for everybody.  That is what it is going to take. 

mountainhunter1

Quote from: joey46 on May 02, 2023, 04:47:38 PM
The states are not going to work together on this.  It is a pipe dream.  The only reasonable solution is the shortening of seasons and the reduction in bag limits.  Quota hunts for public land are coming for residents and OOS alike in the majority of eastern and southern states.  Get ready for them.  After experiencing Florida's system for the past 18 years, even with preference points, a good WMA draw takes 3 to 5 years.  A big "nice going" to states such as Ohio that reduced the limit to ONE for everybody.  That is what it is going to take.

I clearly said that I felt the states would probably not ever work together on something reasonable like this, but my point is that if we really want to fix the matter, the states at some point having a change of heart and very closely working together is going to be the best bet to get the turkey population expanding again. I think the states first focus ought to be habitat improvement and better predator control, but working together in some reasonable way as I suggested could only help to further the cause along with those much more major concerns.

That said, I honestly feel that if we would get hell bent focused on improving habitat and reducing predators state to state across the board, the out of state hunting subject would likely dissipate.   

"I said to the Lord, "You are my Master! Everything good thing I have comes from You." (Psalm 16:2)

Romans 6:23, Romans 10:13

dzsmith

Yal need to chill . The man was just throwing around an idea. It's interesting to hear them whether we agree or not.
"For thy name's sake, O LORD, pardon mine iniquity; for it is great."

Greg Massey

Quote from: dzsmith on May 02, 2023, 11:28:05 PM
Yal need to chill . The man was just throwing around an idea. It's interesting to hear them whether we agree or not.
Amen ... It's good to hear other people's opinions ...  We all care for the future of the turkeys ...

silvestris

Unfortunately, the monetary needs of the turkey are being squandered in some country near Poland.  A lot of good in many areas in this country are and will be sacrificed by this and other spending boondoggles.  There just ain't enough wealth to fix everything.
"[T]he changing environment will someday be totally and irrevocably unsuitable for the wild turkey.  Unless mankind precedes the birds in extinction, we probably will not be hunting turkeys for too much longer."  Ken Morgan, "Turkey Hunting, A One Man Game