Mossberg SA Turkey Tactical w/ Sumtoy .562

[Tandin93]

Apex Ninja 3" 1 5/8 oz 8.5's
280 in 10"
124 in 20"


What are y'all's opinions on this pattern? I'm new to this.. Is this too hot of a core? There seems to be some holes in the pattern. Should I try less constriction?
Thanks!
Trey


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[Tandin93]

Here is a cropped pic.


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[Tandin93]

Anyone?


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[paboxcall]

That's a good one, I'm doing 235 in 10" with 1.5 oz of straight 8s.

[Tsgman]

That's great at 40-50 if that is from a 40 yard target, but tight for a bead site at 20.  At 20 with a red dot you should be good, just my opinion.  It depends on your anticipated shot distance.

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[BandedSpur]

I would not be comfortable shooting any TSS load that only put 124 in the 10-20 ring. You should be able to do much better.

[mountainhunter1]

I think the ten count is awesome, but I personally would have concern about hunting with a pattern running with a low 124 count in the outer twenty portion of the pattern. If he bobs that head, you will miss sooner than later. Try his .570.

[Tandin93]

Thanks for the input! This is from 40 yards.  I was thinking the same thing on the outer ring. I'd be more comfortable with something more even.

I have a Trulock .585 coming that I have heard great things about. It's not a great time to be finding a choke right now, everyone is out of stock.
I might try to get ahold of William and try a .570


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[mountainhunter1]

Thanks for the input! This is from 40 yards.  I was thinking the same thing on the outer ring. I'd be more comfortable with something more even.

I have a Trulock .585 coming that I have heard great things about. It's not a great time to be finding a choke right now, everyone is out of stock.
I might try to get ahold of William and try a .570


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I would suggest that you try the TruLock .585 before dropping more money on an additional choke. Your ten count may drop every slightly, but not enough to matter if it does, but your outer twenty count should go way up with that .585. I think you may have a winner with that combo, especially on the matter of increasing the outer part of the pattern as you presently need to do. But of course, I would also have said the same about the .562 Sumtoy. The point being though that I do not think you will miss on two solid choke choices in a row. Try the .585 first before you spend more of your hard earned cash. Please let us know how it turns out.

[Tandin93]

Thanks for the input! This is from 40 yards.  I was thinking the same thing on the outer ring. I'd be more comfortable with something more even.

I have a Trulock .585 coming that I have heard great things about. It's not a great time to be finding a choke right now, everyone is out of stock.
I might try to get ahold of William and try a .570


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I would suggest that you try the TruLock .585 before dropping more money on an additional choke. Your ten count may drop every slightly, but not enough to matter if it does, but your outer twenty count should go way up with that .585. I think you may have a winner with that combo, especially on the matter of increasing the outer part of the pattern as you presently need to do. But of course, I would also have said the same about the .562 Sumtoy. The point being though that I do not think you will miss on two solid choke choices in a row. Try the .585 first before you spend more of your hard earned cash. Please let us know how it turns out.

Sounds great. I will update when the choke comes in on Tuesday. I'm fine with the 10 count dropping some, I'm just hesitant with the outer count. Thanks for the help!


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[SumToy]

Smart thing would be change the shell.   Then when you need the hot pattern for whatever reason go to that shell when in woods or need open pattern shoot different shell. 

[Tandin93]

Smart thing would be change the shell.   Then when you need the hot pattern for whatever reason go to that shell when in woods or need open pattern shoot different shell. 

That is definitely something I will try as well. I have tried the Apex and the Federal. The Apex was MUCH better than the Federal. Any suggestions of ammo to try?


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[mountainhunter1]

Verdict, or Rogue and maybe Salt Creek. All have a good website that you can order from. There are a few more, but they might be a tad harder to get in hand. With a different load, you may love the Sumtoy .562. But I can almost promise you that you will find a good pattern between the coming .585 and your Sumtoy. No way that at least one of them does not pan out. But you have two excellent chokes, and both should shoot great if offered the right load down the barrel. Just a bit of a hassle to try different rounds, but well worth it.

[Tandin93]

Here is the pattern with the trulock .585 w/ the Apex ninja #8.5's
250 in the 10"
192 in the 20"

I have some of the Mossy Oak Greenleaf  blend from Apex coming, as well as some Rogue 3" #9's. I will post pictures of these when I get them in.

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[Ranman]

I like that a lot. Much more forgiving. Is that with the .585?