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[RND1983]

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I recently switched to a 20 gauge after the season. I picked up some Rogue and Foxtrot both in 9 shot to pattern to see what performs best. Does anyone have any personal experience with these loads and if so, could you provide info? I cannot really find a ton of info about either on here. I was not able to get any 20 gauge loads from the manufacturer I used this past year so these two were the best available options. Thank you for the information. This will be out of a Franchi affinity 3 with a Sumtoy .570.

[paboxcall]

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On the Foxtrot train here. No experience with your gun or choke though.

Initially shot the Hot Rod load and straight 9s through a Mossberg 500 and IC 555. That produced 320+ in a 10" at 40 and worked great in the field the past couple years. Moved up to straight 8.5s in the Hot Rod load with great patterns (245+) through the IC .555.

But starting this year I'm shooting the Foxtrot HSHDT with a 1.5oz. load of straight 8s. The HSHDT load will put 235+ in a 10" at 40 with these with the IC .555, with fewer flyers in the patterns, and the added energy of the TSS #8 is a plus.

You'll see more difference in the choke tube you try, for example I shot handloaded TSS through this same IC 555 choke with near identical performance to Foxtrot loads. But the 22" Mossberg 500 barrel did not take a liking to the IC .562 using any of the above loads and shot sizes, so I sold that tube. Difference for this gun between IC 555 and 562 was night and day, about 10% - 20% less core pattern depending on the load, but still very huntable pattern though.

The forum member who bought that IC 562 is the other way around, his gun much prefers the .562. Just gotta try different stuff.

[Spring Creek Calls]

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I don't have any experience with Rogue but have had very good results with Foxtrot both patterning and hunting in 28 gauge (1.5  oz of 9's) and 2-3/4" 12 gauge (1-5/8 oz of 8.5's). Apex and TSS Shot also make a good product worth trying.

[bobk]

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I have had good  experiences with Foxtrot TSS in 20 gauge #9 and 28 gauge 9 is well as .410 9.5's. I have had no experience with Rogue.

[RND1983]

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Sounds like the foxtrot should be solid. I would guess the rogue should be on par with Apex, Burgess Creek, etc, but you just do not see much on their social media about their patterns. I have always had a Sumtoy .665 in my 12 gauge and threw an even hunting pattern that nothing could escape. I always got higher 10” numbers with an Indian Creek, but the Sumtoy suited my gun best in the woods. I am hoping the .570 will give me the same results, but if not, I know he will work with me to get it right and send a .562. Thank you all for the information.

[Ranman]

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I think you will be just fine with the .570..

[lacire]

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Have you had a chance to pattern your Franchi yet or are you still waiting for your choke?

[RND1983]

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Have you had a chance to pattern your Franchi yet or are you still waiting for your choke?

I did pattern the gun at 40. Both loads patterned very well and would hunt either. I gave the nod to the Foxtrot #9’s. It was a little more consistent than the Rogue, but both will hunt.