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Started by JohnSouth22, April 25, 2021, 06:14:40 PM
Quote from: Gut_Pile on April 27, 2021, 02:04:33 PMThose stating how much meat a body shot messes up, have you ever shot one in the body at close range?
Quote from: guesswho on April 27, 2021, 10:46:27 AMI guess I'm confused as to why you can hit the body but not the head.
Quote from: trkehunr93 on April 27, 2021, 02:04:00 PMI literally thought this was about calling them in so close you could go full Jackie Chan on one....my was I surprised.
Quote from: wchadw on April 27, 2021, 10:37:48 AMQuote from: Gooserbat on April 27, 2021, 08:16:01 AMQuote from: wchadw on April 26, 2021, 07:46:32 PMQuote from: Gooserbat on April 26, 2021, 04:39:40 PMI don't even understand why tss would cause a close range miss. My gun shoots a volleyball size pattern at 20 yards. That's not tight. Most people who shoot tss are not shooting 400+/10" but patterns similar to mine. If you are missing up close it's more likely a poi vs poa problem. Under ten yards is like a slug. Hitting a moving target is pretty hard when it's the size of a turkey head. People are shooting patterns at 40 yards but if you shoot tss in a real tight choke your chances of missing a bird up close goes up the closer it is. A well sighted in red dot would help but like I said, hitting a moving turkey with something the size of a baseball is toughSent from my iPhone using TapatalkAll I can say is that in the last 7 years (before tss became a thing) and setting up 5 guns, developing loads for another 4, shooting paper at ranges from up close to 60 yards, and killing around 40 turkeys at ranges from 10 steps to 73 yards, I have learned a thing or two about tss. First thing is you have to try or get lucky to have a slug size pattern up close. Second is if you can't hit up close it's probably a poa/poi problem. Next I've never saw any gun shoot under 6" at ten yards. And if the pattern is to tight use a factory full.My point is that this guy needs to know his setup. Pattern at 10, 20, 30 40 yards and know what his gun will do. If he can't hit a bird in the head at a distance, he doesn't need to shoot at it. In my opinion it's worse ethically to shoot at a bird over 40 or 50 yards. Chances of crippling the bird go way up. I believe that while TSS loads are great, you still should make sure it's an acceptable range to shoot. I see all these guys trying to get max counts in a 10 inch ring at 40 yards which is great but they need to know what that pattern looks like up close and make sure their poi/poa is onSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk LO
Quote from: Gooserbat on April 27, 2021, 08:16:01 AMQuote from: wchadw on April 26, 2021, 07:46:32 PMQuote from: Gooserbat on April 26, 2021, 04:39:40 PMI don't even understand why tss would cause a close range miss. My gun shoots a volleyball size pattern at 20 yards. That's not tight. Most people who shoot tss are not shooting 400+/10" but patterns similar to mine. If you are missing up close it's more likely a poi vs poa problem. Under ten yards is like a slug. Hitting a moving target is pretty hard when it's the size of a turkey head. People are shooting patterns at 40 yards but if you shoot tss in a real tight choke your chances of missing a bird up close goes up the closer it is. A well sighted in red dot would help but like I said, hitting a moving turkey with something the size of a baseball is toughSent from my iPhone using TapatalkAll I can say is that in the last 7 years (before tss became a thing) and setting up 5 guns, developing loads for another 4, shooting paper at ranges from up close to 60 yards, and killing around 40 turkeys at ranges from 10 steps to 73 yards, I have learned a thing or two about tss. First thing is you have to try or get lucky to have a slug size pattern up close. Second is if you can't hit up close it's probably a poa/poi problem. Next I've never saw any gun shoot under 6" at ten yards. And if the pattern is to tight use a factory full.
Quote from: wchadw on April 26, 2021, 07:46:32 PMQuote from: Gooserbat on April 26, 2021, 04:39:40 PMI don't even understand why tss would cause a close range miss. My gun shoots a volleyball size pattern at 20 yards. That's not tight. Most people who shoot tss are not shooting 400+/10" but patterns similar to mine. If you are missing up close it's more likely a poi vs poa problem. Under ten yards is like a slug. Hitting a moving target is pretty hard when it's the size of a turkey head. People are shooting patterns at 40 yards but if you shoot tss in a real tight choke your chances of missing a bird up close goes up the closer it is. A well sighted in red dot would help but like I said, hitting a moving turkey with something the size of a baseball is toughSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Quote from: Gooserbat on April 26, 2021, 04:39:40 PMI don't even understand why tss would cause a close range miss. My gun shoots a volleyball size pattern at 20 yards. That's not tight. Most people who shoot tss are not shooting 400+/10" but patterns similar to mine. If you are missing up close it's more likely a poi vs poa problem.
Quote from: Spurs Up on April 27, 2021, 06:12:52 PMQuote from: guesswho on April 27, 2021, 10:46:27 AMI guess I'm confused as to why you can hit the body but not the head.Kill the body and the head will die.
Quote from: Pluffmud on April 28, 2021, 09:15:08 AMA good majority of the people on this thread need to read The Tenth Legion. If youve already read it, you need to go read it again.