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Misread the box (Edit) Heavyweight

Started by Sir-diealot, April 24, 2021, 04:17:50 PM

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Sir-diealot

Stopped into a gun shop earlier and found they had two boxes of turkey ammo left, I thought I read it as Federal Heavyweight 3" 12 ga. number 8 shot but I did have sweat in my eyes and it turns out it is 6 shot which I discovered when I got home.

I am already shooting number 6 shot Winchester Longbeard XR's, am I going to see any improvement other an penetration?
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Greg Massey

It will have better penetration at longer range. say at 40 yards over the XR's

guesswho

Are you sure its#6's and not #9's.
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lunghit

I don't think Federal makes straight 6's in TSS. Does anyone make size 6 in TSS?
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tracker#1

I didn't know that Federal #6 tss existed?

Sir-diealot

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Quote from: guesswho on April 24, 2021, 05:05:34 PM
Are you sure its#6's and not #9's.
Yes, sure am for two reasons, 1. I just double checked and 2. 9's are illegal in NY Sorry, re-reading this it comes off cocky, it was not my intent.
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Dtrkyman

They don't make 6s, could deer hunt with those


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Sir-diealot

Quote from: lunghit on April 24, 2021, 05:16:40 PM
I don't think Federal makes straight 6's in TSS. Does anyone make size 6 in TSS?
I guess you are right, it is HeavyWeight
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guesswho

Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 24, 2021, 06:35:39 PM
Quote from: guesswho on April 24, 2021, 05:05:34 PM
Are you sure its#6's and not #9's.
Yes, sure am for two reasons, 1. I just double checked and 2. 9's are illegal in NY Sorry, re-reading this it comes off cocky, it was not my intent.
No, not at all.   Makes sense now with the HW's. 
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Sir-diealot

Quote from: guesswho on April 24, 2021, 06:58:50 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 24, 2021, 06:35:39 PM
Quote from: guesswho on April 24, 2021, 05:05:34 PM
Are you sure its#6's and not #9's.
Yes, sure am for two reasons, 1. I just double checked and 2. 9's are illegal in NY Sorry, re-reading this it comes off cocky, it was not my intent.
No, not at all.   Makes sense now with the HW's.
Thanks. Any clue what the performance would be compared to the Longbeard XR's?
Strength does not come from winning. Your struggles develop your strengths. When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is strength. Arnold Schwarzenegger

John Koenig:
"It's better to live as your own man, than as a fool in someone else's dream."

ScottTaulbee

In my experience, any shell I've compared to the xr has been lacking.


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ChesterCopperpot

Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 24, 2021, 07:26:51 PM
Quote from: guesswho on April 24, 2021, 06:58:50 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 24, 2021, 06:35:39 PM
Quote from: guesswho on April 24, 2021, 05:05:34 PM
Are you sure its#6's and not #9's.
Yes, sure am for two reasons, 1. I just double checked and 2. 9's are illegal in NY Sorry, re-reading this it comes off cocky, it was not my intent.
No, not at all.   Makes sense now with the HW's.
Thanks. Any clue what the performance would be compared to the Longbeard XR's?
Hard to say how they'll pattern, a lot of variables, but they'll certainly have less pellets per ounce than your LBs.


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Sir-diealot

Quote from: ChesterCopperpot on April 24, 2021, 07:42:12 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 24, 2021, 07:26:51 PM
Quote from: guesswho on April 24, 2021, 06:58:50 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 24, 2021, 06:35:39 PM
Quote from: guesswho on April 24, 2021, 05:05:34 PM
Are you sure its#6's and not #9's.
Yes, sure am for two reasons, 1. I just double checked and 2. 9's are illegal in NY Sorry, re-reading this it comes off cocky, it was not my intent.
No, not at all.   Makes sense now with the HW's.
Thanks. Any clue what the performance would be compared to the Longbeard XR's?
Hard to say how they'll pattern, a lot of variables, but they'll certainly have less pellets per ounce than your LBs.


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Why is that if they are both number 6?

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John Koenig:
"It's better to live as your own man, than as a fool in someone else's dream."

g8rvet

Because Longbeards are lead (11gm/cc) and Heavyweight is tungsten alloy (15gm/cc).  So based on weight, there will be less shot per ounce in the Heavyweight.

Edit:  I just looked it up
Lead#6 - 222 pellets per ounce
Heavyweight #6 - 165 pellets per ounce
TSS #6 (which I have never seen)- 139 per ounce

I have not had any luck with a good pattern with the HW in a 12 gauge (about 5 guns now).  20 gauge has been tremendous. 
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