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Started by GobbleNut, March 20, 2021, 10:06:27 AM

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ChesterCopperpot

I'm 37 and had the first Moderna. Awaiting the booster. No real side effects other than a sore arm and was a bit tired the first few days.


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TrackeySauresRex

I'm going to get the vax when the mail em out.
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Tom007

Here's the stats:

2020 Us Deaths was 334,000 higher than 2019 total Us deaths
Average influenza deaths per year in US: up to 61,000
Total COVID US deaths: 541,000

Anyone who died in 2020 that tested positive for COVID, listed cause of death as COVID. If you subtract 61,000 from the difference in deaths from 2019 to 2020 (334,000), that is a difference in deaths from 2019 to 2020 of 273,000. Far cry from 541,000. There's the facts. Keeps us all thinking. Be safe,

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Crghss

Quote from: Tom007 on March 20, 2021, 08:41:14 PM
Here's the stats:

2020 Us Deaths was 334,000 higher than 2019 total Us deaths
Average influenza deaths per year in US: up to 61,000
Total COVID US deaths: 541,000

Anyone who died in 2020 that tested positive for COVID, listed cause of death as COVID. If you subtract 61,000 from the difference in deaths from 2019 to 2020 (334,000), that is a difference in deaths from 2019 to 2020 of 273,000. Far cry from 541,000. There's the facts. Keeps us all thinking. Be safe,

Trying to understand how you got to 334K?

So how many have died from the flu in 2020?

Did 61K die from the flu in 2020? The answer is no. So why are you subtracting 61K from total deaths in 2020?
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Tom007

#50
Quote from: Crghss on March 20, 2021, 08:50:57 PM
Quote from: Tom007 on March 20, 2021, 08:41:14 PM
Here's the stats:

2020 Us Deaths was 334,000 higher than 2019 total Us deaths
Average influenza deaths per year in US: up to 61,000
Total COVID US deaths: 541,000

Anyone who died in 2020 that tested positive for COVID, listed cause of death as COVID. If you subtract 61,000 from the difference in deaths from 2019 to 2020 (334,000), that is a difference in deaths from 2019 to 2020 of 273,000. Far cry from 541,000. There's the facts. Keeps us all thinking. Be safe,

Trying to understand how you got to 334K?

So how many have died from the flu in 2020?

Did 61K die from the flu in 2020? The answer is no. So why are you subtracting 61K from total deaths in 2020?


2017-2018- 61,000 flu deaths according to CDC. My stats above said up to 61,000. Disregard all the possible flu deaths, there is still a significant difference between 334,000 and 541,000. Be safe...

Chris O

Quote from: Dtrkyman on March 20, 2021, 10:55:46 AM
Not getting it, save it for the folks who need it.  I am not anti vax however it is just turning into a money grab, how many politicians are invested in these companies?

I know a dozen friends who have had Covid, only one was sick to any serious extent but recovered, most felt tired for a few days and that was it.

It will soon be weaponized, can only go here or there with proof of Vaccine.  BS.

Hope everyone stays healthy.
I am with you on this!!!

Big Jeremy

Quote from: davisd9 on March 20, 2021, 10:49:55 AM
I am getting my second shot the 30th. I am 35 and in very good overall health. Never had the flu shot and never will. If I get Covid most likely it will be a nothing for me. I did not get the shots for me, I got it for my 75 year old dad in chemotherapy, my 69 year old mother that has high blood pressure and blood clotting disease, my 67 year old father in law, my 65 year old mother in law, my brother in law with CKF, my sister with a clotting disorder, and other people in my life. If it was just about me then I would not get it most likely, but the world is not just about me.
There's a lot to like in this post from my perspective. I understand all points of view related to this vaccine.

I am fully vaccinated. In addition to the thoughts I quoted from davisd9, I also have diabetes and my wife has rheumatoid arthritis. My diabetes is well under control and I am in good health, but still another reason for me to get it.

For those that don't want it, I still say more power to you. Thankfully it is a choice. Make your choice and stick with it unless YOU change your mind.


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Rapscallion Vermilion

Quote from: Tom007 on March 20, 2021, 08:58:34 PM
Quote from: Crghss on March 20, 2021, 08:50:57 PM
Quote from: Tom007 on March 20, 2021, 08:41:14 PM
Here's the stats:

2020 Us Deaths was 334,000 higher than 2019 total Us deaths
Average influenza deaths per year in US: up to 61,000
Total COVID US deaths: 541,000

Anyone who died in 2020 that tested positive for COVID, listed cause of death as COVID. If you subtract 61,000 from the difference in deaths from 2019 to 2020 (334,000), that is a difference in deaths from 2019 to 2020 of 273,000. Far cry from 541,000. There's the facts. Keeps us all thinking. Be safe,

Trying to understand how you got to 334K?

So how many have died from the flu in 2020?

Did 61K die from the flu in 2020? The answer is no. So why are you subtracting 61K from total deaths in 2020?


2017-2018- 61,000 flu deaths according to CDC. My stats above said up to 61,000. Disregard all the possible flu deaths, there is still a significant difference between 334,000 and 541,000. Be safe...
Yes, but about 180,000 of those 541,000 US COVID deaths have occurred since the end of 2020, so you should compare to the deaths at the end of 2020.  If you look at the period from March of 2020 till now, the increase in US deaths is about 560,000 more than average. 

Tom007

Quote from: Rapscallion Vermilion on March 20, 2021, 09:35:17 PM
Quote from: Tom007 on March 20, 2021, 08:58:34 PM
Quote from: Crghss on March 20, 2021, 08:50:57 PM
Quote from: Tom007 on March 20, 2021, 08:41:14 PM
Here's the stats:

2020 Us Deaths was 334,000 higher than 2019 total Us deaths
Average influenza deaths per year in US: up to 61,000
Total COVID US deaths: 541,000

Anyone who died in 2020 that tested positive for COVID, listed cause of death as COVID. If you subtract 61,000 from the difference in deaths from 2019 to 2020 (334,000), that is a difference in deaths from 2019 to 2020 of 273,000. Far cry from 541,000. There's the facts. Keeps us all thinking. Be safe,

Trying to understand how you got to 334K?

So how many have died from the flu in 2020?

Did 61K die from the flu in 2020? The answer is no. So why are you subtracting 61K from total deaths in 2020?


2017-2018- 61,000 flu deaths according to CDC. My stats above said up to 61,000. Disregard all the possible flu deaths, there is still a significant difference between 334,000 and 541,000. Be safe...
Yes, but about 180,000 of those 541,000 US COVID deaths have occurred since the end of 2020, so you should compare to the deaths at the end of 2020.  If you look at the period from March of 2020 till now, the increase in US deaths is about 560,000 more than average.

I missed that Mike. Not down playing it. It is definitely a problem, there are so many varying numbers out there it is confusing...be safe my friend...

Kylongspur88

I'm fairly young but I've been fully vaccinated for over a month now due to work.

Tom007

My wife and I had COVID in November. She had mild symptoms, lost sense of taste and smell, and felt tired for about 10 days. I had no symptoms. I am asymptomatic. My wife has her shot scheduled for next week. I am registered, but not eligible yet. I am going to get the shot because I do not want to spread the virus to anyone around me. We are all in this together, thus I owe it to others to get the vaccine. We will all battle this together, hopefully it will disappear. Be safe,

tracker vi

Wife and I have both had 1 Moderna shot , no side effects at all , second one coming next week . Be able to hug the grandkids soon. It's your choice .

Rapscallion Vermilion

Quote from: Tom007 on March 20, 2021, 09:59:38 PM
My wife and I had COVID in November. She had mild symptoms, lost sense of taste and smell, and felt tired for about 10 days. I had no symptoms. I am asymptomatic. My wife has her shot scheduled for next week. I am registered, but not eligible yet. I am going to get the shot because I do not want to spread the virus to anyone around me. We are all in this together, thus I owe it to others to get the vaccine. We will all battle this together, hopefully it will disappear. Be safe,
Great attitude about this Tom

vt35mag

#59
I turned 37 the other day. For a good while I was in the no vaccine for me camp. Ive never got the flu shot and dont plan to start. However, one of my very best friends got covid and gave it to his future father in law, who needed to be picked up by ambulance. He was coughing up blood and ended up spending some time in the hospital fighting the virus. He is now out of the hospital but is still working through COPD type symptoms months later. Hearing what happened to him, and what it put my friend through mentally, changed my tune toward vaccination some.
I am eligible for the vaccine mid April and will be getting the Moderna or Pfizer shots. I will be doing it for my family. My 3yr old daughter spends the day at 80yr old grandpa and 72yr old grandma's house two days a week. I would feel horrible if they or anyone else I am close to ended up contracting and having to fight the virus because of me.
I am glad getting the vaccine is a choice, as I think it should be. Everyone's beliefs and situation is different. Hope everyone stays safe and healthy.

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