I have not shot federals. But I have shot some Apex. They pattern great for the most part. But as of the last two lots, I have been getting some inconstant results. Out of the last 10 I have shot, 2 of them have sounded weird and pattern is a lot bigger?? to the point I would missed a bird at 30 yards. I have just about gave up on them. Thinking of going to the Federals myself.