Got the rubber washers, think they are helping.

[Sir-diealot]

So I got the rubber washers to use as a lip stop, had to add a pair of O-rings as well to keep them from sliding. I think they are helping. what do you think? This is a month ago and just a few minutes ago.

https://soundcloud.com/user-933394494/more-practice-outside-with-a-wingbone-turkey-call

https://soundcloud.com/user-933394494/wingbone-practice-2

[Sir-diealot]

Well I guess I still suck since nobody want to reply. lol

[gergg]

Getting better for sure, just smooth everything out....

[EZ]

Your tone certainly got better. Still sounds like you're fighting with the call a little. When you practice, try choking off the call on the bell end and try using as little air as possible and call as soft as possible. Try getting that first "high" note and hold it (like a Kee kee). Keep doing that until you have very good control of that first note. Then you can drop your jaw to create the second note. Do this all very exaggerated..... long and drawn out, with control is the key. Once you got that (and it may take awhile) you can run the two notes together for a nice yelp. Correct practice is the key.

Good luck Brother!!!

[crow]

Good practice info in that post^^^

still sounds like your drawing too much air and sounds like your leaking air on the lipstop.
the depth the lipstop is set at is important, try adjusting it in tiny increments

[davisd9]

You are drawing too much air.   It also could be how you are drawing air.  You draw air from your diaphragm and throat, almost like drinking from a straw.

How big is the mouth piece hole diameter, too large and it makes playing every difficult.  Not every bone can be thrown into a call and make a good call.  Good call makers know which bones will make effective calls and which should not be used, or they should at least.  Personally, I can play a wingbone but prefer a trumpet.

[Sir-diealot]

Getting better for sure, just smooth everything out....

Thanks, I am working on it. I will get there eventually.

[Sir-diealot]

Your tone certainly got better. Still sounds like you're fighting with the call a little. When you practice, try choking off the call on the bell end and try using as little air as possible and call as soft as possible. Try getting that first "high" note and hold it (like a Kee kee). Keep doing that until you have very good control of that first note. Then you can drop your jaw to create the second note. Do this all very exaggerated..... long and drawn out, with control is the key. Once you got that (and it may take awhile) you can run the two notes together for a nice yelp. Correct practice is the key.

Good luck Brother!!!

I was able to get a good sounding keekee at one point, but was not sure that was the tone I would want. I have been trying here the last few minutes to get it back but now can't seem to. Thank you for all the advise.

[Sir-diealot]

Good practice info in that post^^^

still sounds like your drawing too much air and sounds like your leaking air on the lipstop.
the depth the lipstop is set at is important, try adjusting it in tiny increments

Thanks, I am trying to draw much less and it seems to be helping, what do you mean about leaking air and what would I do to prevent it? Thanks.

[Sir-diealot]

You are drawing too much air.   It also could be how you are drawing air.  You draw air from your diaphragm and throat, almost like drinking from a straw.

How big is the mouth piece hole diameter, too large and it makes playing every difficult.  Not every bone can be thrown into a call and make a good call.  Good call makers know which bones will make effective calls and which should not be used, or they should at least.  Personally, I can play a wingbone but prefer a trumpet.

I was wondering if I was taking in to much air still, I really reduced it compared to what I was taking in before but I guess I need to take in less and I will work at that.

I am not very good with reading a measuring tape, I will take a picture later with the wingbone against it though so you can see the size. Thanks again for the help.

[EZ]

Have you tried any other wingbones, Jordans or trumpets?

[crow]

Good practice info in that post^^^

still sounds like your drawing too much air and sounds like your leaking air on the lipstop.
the depth the lipstop is set at is important, try adjusting it in tiny increments

Thanks, I am trying to draw much less and it seems to be helping, what do you mean about leaking air and what would I do to prevent it? Thanks.

by "leaking air" I mean it sounds like you don't have a good seal where you are contacting the lipstop and air is escaping.

For most people there is going to be one position for the lipstop to be that allows you  to play your best, especially when first learning. put it where your doing your best and then move it in 1/32"  increments in both directions to find your sweet spot. Del Crow "Savduck" explains it very well on his instructional.

[Sir-diealot]

Thanks, turns out I do have his videos but it shows on the trumpet and I was not sure they go hand and hand so I have been not using the trumpet video's.

[Sir-diealot]

Here are the pictures I promised, sorry I was not feeling well yesterday so I did not even get on the computer.