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Started by Sir-diealot, April 13, 2018, 04:23:08 AM

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Sir-diealot

Quote from: spaightlabs on April 13, 2018, 11:14:39 AM
I like where your head is at!  If you are shooting under 200 your chances of making a very ethical kill are greatly enhanced - thank you for your respect for the game!

You might give these a try to see how they work for you.

https://www.remington.com/ammunition/centerfire-rifle/managed-recoil.

I have a very light 12 ga o/u that my wife got me for our 10th anniversary.  No recoil pad.  For high volume shooting like dove or pigeon or sporting clays I always shoot low velocity, low noise rounds - never a problem and they kill just well.  If I try to run snappier rounds through that for a day it beats me half to death.
You have to be fair to the animal you are hunting, you have a responsibility to take them ethically. I am no animal rights activist or anything, I don't believe that animals feel things the same as humans do though I do believe they feel pain, just not to the same extent we do and we have to limit what they feel by making the best shots that we can within our personal and real limits, not only for the sake of our quarry but for the sake of our sport.

I remember when I got my bow hunting certificate one of the guys in the club looked at me and said that he hated bow hunters because he was sick of seeing deer running around with antennas sticking out of them. I was offended because I had not even shot an arrow at anything living yet but I was being categorized for something somebody else had done. In all honesty though I think the guy is a jerk for this comment and just his general personality he made me a better archer because I wanted to be more aware of what I was doing so he and others could not use it against me. That and as I said I don't have great eyes so I limit my bow shots to 30 yards for deer and I think I would do the same for most other animals. I am the same with shooting turkey, 25-30 yards tops for me, I owe it to them to make a clean ethical shot. I have been picked on more than once for not taking shots that I was not comfortable with with bow, shotgun and rifle but I would rather know that I did what was right for me.

The other reason is I simply don't want to give anti's anything to say "Look at what this guy did"
Strength does not come from winning. Your struggles develop your strengths. When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is strength. Arnold Schwarzenegger

John Koenig:
"It's better to live as your own man, than as a fool in someone else's dream."

bbcoach

I added a Limbsaver and about 4-6 oz of lead shot in the stock of my 835.  It tamed the recoil of 3 1/2 inchers down to a 20 gauge.  Since the 835 has a hollow stock, I got a piece of styrofoam from Hobby Lobby and cut it down to fit snuggly inside the stock.  I then took a sock and put about 4-6 ozs of lead shot in the sock, put several layers of duct tape around the sock, cut off enough Styrofoam so the sock would fit snuggly in the rear of the stock and you have a recoil reducer.  It also helped to balance the gun as well.

Sir-diealot

Quote from: bbcoach on April 13, 2018, 12:45:59 PM
I added a Limbsaver and about 4-6 oz of lead shot in the stock of my 835.  It tamed the recoil of 3 1/2 inchers down to a 20 gauge.  Since the 835 has a hollow stock, I got a piece of styrofoam from Hobby Lobby and cut it down to fit snuggly inside the stock.  I then took a sock and put about 4-6 ozs of lead shot in the sock, put several layers of duct tape around the sock, cut off enough Styrofoam so the sock would fit snuggly in the rear of the stock and you have a recoil reducer.  It also helped to balance the gun as well.
Neat idea.
Strength does not come from winning. Your struggles develop your strengths. When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is strength. Arnold Schwarzenegger

John Koenig:
"It's better to live as your own man, than as a fool in someone else's dream."

Jasonb53

I have had both of my shoulders operated on a couple of times and I use just a limbsaver pad on all my rifles and shotguns. I also use a leadsled when sighting and testing any loads before season. Haven't shot much wing birds but when i do i use a semi-auto. My shoulder holds up fine with these methods

howl

Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 13, 2018, 12:04:27 PM
Quote from: howl on April 13, 2018, 10:10:35 AM
A reduced load and some weight added will take recoil down to unnoticeable while still having plenty of smack for 150 yard deer. If you can trade around to a 25/06 or .260 Rem/6.5 Creedmoor, using 120gr bullets at full velocity will do the same.
I would rather come up with another load to be honest, I rather like the gun though I do wish I had gotten a clip fed one. Thank you for the recommendations though.

Around 40gr H4895 and a 150gr soft bullet will do the trick. Get the gun up to eight pounds or more if it isn't already.

Happy

I worked up a .243 load that is pure death on deer. Don't underestimate small calibers with the right bullet and velocity.

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Sir-diealot

Quote from: Jasonb53 on April 13, 2018, 02:46:36 PM
I have had both of my shoulders operated on a couple of times and I use just a limbsaver pad on all my rifles and shotguns. I also use a leadsled when sighting and testing any loads before season. Haven't shot much wing birds but when i do i use a semi-auto. My shoulder holds up fine with these methods
I will be shooting a semi-auto for turkey but the deer gun is a bolt action.
Strength does not come from winning. Your struggles develop your strengths. When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is strength. Arnold Schwarzenegger

John Koenig:
"It's better to live as your own man, than as a fool in someone else's dream."

Sir-diealot

Quote from: howl on April 13, 2018, 03:13:29 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 13, 2018, 12:04:27 PM
Quote from: howl on April 13, 2018, 10:10:35 AM
A reduced load and some weight added will take recoil down to unnoticeable while still having plenty of smack for 150 yard deer. If you can trade around to a 25/06 or .260 Rem/6.5 Creedmoor, using 120gr bullets at full velocity will do the same.
I would rather come up with another load to be honest, I rather like the gun though I do wish I had gotten a clip fed one. Thank you for the recommendations though.

Around 40gr H4895 and a 150gr soft bullet will do the trick. Get the gun up to eight pounds or more if it isn't already.
All I know is it will definitely be a Nosler round, ever thing I have loaded with Nosler have been absolute tac drivers. I have also shot nothing but their boat tailed ballistic tips and they have been great. I was running IMR 4064 for the .243 Winchester with a 55 gr. boat tailed ballistic tip with whatever the medium load was in the last book and all shots touched. I will see if they have anything in the size you suggest.
Strength does not come from winning. Your struggles develop your strengths. When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is strength. Arnold Schwarzenegger

John Koenig:
"It's better to live as your own man, than as a fool in someone else's dream."

Sir-diealot

Quote from: Happy on April 13, 2018, 03:24:51 PM
I worked up a .243 load that is pure death on deer. Don't underestimate small calibers with the right bullet and velocity.
Oh I don't, I just don't want to lug around a 50 MM scope right now until my shoulders have healed up some. That and they had to remove part of the bicep in my right arm when they did the rotator cuff surgery and I am right handed.
Strength does not come from winning. Your struggles develop your strengths. When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is strength. Arnold Schwarzenegger

John Koenig:
"It's better to live as your own man, than as a fool in someone else's dream."