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Started by Farmboy27, June 22, 2016, 09:13:32 PM
Quote from: Ihuntoldschool on June 23, 2016, 10:22:53 PMWhile it is true that in Virginia, you get three tags and can use them all in the spring, you cannot use all of them in fall. No more than 2 birds in the fall.
Quote from: trkehunr93 on June 24, 2016, 09:55:08 PMLove to fall hunt turkeys, no science to back up claims it is effecting spring turkey hunting. Science does back up that it takes two jakes to get one spring gobbler, meaning based on disease, predation, etc. statistically only one of those two jakes will reach maturity. Look it up, Lovett Williams published it. Second, there are far fewer fall hunters than spring hunters so the killing of hens has minimal impact on the population as a whole. Third, the buck pictured below was killed out of a treestand in a patch of woods I fall turkey hunt in quite frequently so stinking up the woods is not a concern in my opinion Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Quote from: ferocious calls on June 26, 2016, 07:40:24 AMMany spring only hunters and many fall hunters as well don't know that often times fall gobblers can be called in just like spring when circumstances are rite. Find them on the roost without hens in the fall and it is on. Find 2 together on the roost with no hens and it is really on. Have had them gobble and strutt into my set up several times. I love to hunt fall gobblers. Often I will hear those heavy winged Toms' flying up to roost while archery hunting and return predawn to set up on them just like spring.
Quote from: VaTuRkStOmPeR on June 26, 2016, 08:04:33 PMQuote from: trkehunr93 on June 24, 2016, 09:55:08 PMLove to fall hunt turkeys, no science to back up claims it is effecting spring turkey hunting. Science does back up that it takes two jakes to get one spring gobbler, meaning based on disease, predation, etc. statistically only one of those two jakes will reach maturity. Look it up, Lovett Williams published it. Second, there are far fewer fall hunters than spring hunters so the killing of hens has minimal impact on the population as a whole. Third, the buck pictured below was killed out of a treestand in a patch of woods I fall turkey hunt in quite frequently so stinking up the woods is not a concern in my opinion Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkIf you're targeting male birds in the fall, you're right. It doesn't affect the overall health of the flock. However, if you're killing hens, you're absolutely impacting that population. The average clutch is 11 eggs per hen and statistically only 3 poults of 11 will make it to their first year. Kill 2 hens off a farm in the fall and that's 22 fewer eggs the next spring. No thanks. You say stinking up the woods in the fall isn't a big deal. Considering a deer lives and dies by what its nose tells it and the most successful trophy hunters in the country take extreme measures to keep their woods pristine from scent and disturbance that's an interesting statement.... Do you have a wall full of deer over 4.5 years old or just one?
Quote from: wvmntnhick on June 26, 2016, 10:10:43 PMQuote from: VaTuRkStOmPeR on June 26, 2016, 08:04:33 PMQuote from: trkehunr93 on June 24, 2016, 09:55:08 PMLove to fall hunt turkeys, no science to back up claims it is effecting spring turkey hunting. Science does back up that it takes two jakes to get one spring gobbler, meaning based on disease, predation, etc. statistically only one of those two jakes will reach maturity. Look it up, Lovett Williams published it. Second, there are far fewer fall hunters than spring hunters so the killing of hens has minimal impact on the population as a whole. Third, the buck pictured below was killed out of a treestand in a patch of woods I fall turkey hunt in quite frequently so stinking up the woods is not a concern in my opinion Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkIf you're targeting male birds in the fall, you're right. It doesn't affect the overall health of the flock. However, if you're killing hens, you're absolutely impacting that population. The average clutch is 11 eggs per hen and statistically only 3 poults of 11 will make it to their first year. Kill 2 hens off a farm in the fall and that's 22 fewer eggs the next spring. No thanks. You say stinking up the woods in the fall isn't a big deal. Considering a deer lives and dies by what its nose tells it and the most successful trophy hunters in the country take extreme measures to keep their woods pristine from scent and disturbance that's an interesting statement.... Do you have a wall full of deer over 4.5 years old or just one?Isn't it nice that we can all have different opinions?
Quote from: trkehunr93 on June 27, 2016, 07:17:03 AMhttp://www.nwtf.org/hunt/article/4-wild-turkey-populationsInteresting article from the NWTF. It appears we are having a carrying capacity issue, not a too many fall hunters issue. A quote from a previous post"Considering the FACT that wild turkey numbers are falling at an alarming rate in many places across the country, as stewards of the resource it may be prudent to consider that before you send a load of 6's into a Jenny's face this fall." BTW I prefer 5's Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Quote from: Va3toes on June 29, 2016, 01:11:08 PMHaven't been fall turkey hunting in years. I think I'll give it a go this year.