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Kansas hunting trip

Started by severett2, May 07, 2016, 01:28:12 PM

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RemingtonRules

I firmly believe that the internet has killed that place, it gets hammered hard and fast

Internet is good for sharing stories but is hard on places. 

stinkpickle

Quote from: RemingtonRules on May 08, 2016, 09:01:32 AM
I firmly believe that the internet has killed that place, it gets hammered hard and fast

Internet is good for sharing stories but is hard on places.

It's quite possible.  This is why Iowa still limits non-resident deer tags. 

BTW, I was looking up the historical turkey license sales for Kansas.  Since 2000, the resident sales have remained roughly the same, while non-resident sales are up over 500%! 

spaightlabs

Quote from: stinkpickle on May 08, 2016, 11:09:01 AM
Quote from: RemingtonRules on May 08, 2016, 09:01:32 AM
I firmly believe that the internet has killed that place, it gets hammered hard and fast

Internet is good for sharing stories but is hard on places.

It's quite possible.  This is why Iowa still limits non-resident deer tags. 

BTW, I was looking up the historical turkey license sales for Kansas.  Since 2000, the resident sales have remained roughly the same, while non-resident sales are up over 500%!


KDWP does a great job of marketing the resource, that's for sure.  Maybe too good of a job.

turkeyfoot

in 6 days of hunting WIHA's the numbers were sad we jumped around to didn't stay in one county and bang our heads into wall worse I've ever seen it this was anywhere near Neb line I was very surprised

Rapscallion Vermilion

Jeff Prendergast, turkey biologist for Kansas, was quoted in Game and Fish magazine as saying "In the spring of 2015, Kansas had the highest turkey harvest ever — 74,000 birds ...".  The typical harvest for many years running, reported by KDWP, has been in the low to mid 30,000 range.  If that number for 2015 is correct, it might give some insight into the dearth of birds this year.

redjones

Been Turkey hunting Kansas for probably 15yrs. and this year I saw more people hunting than ever before.
Still had a good trip,but there is definitely more pressure now than ever before throughout the state.
Another thing to remember is that the farmers out there Hate turkeys with a passion,and its not uncommon for some of them to shoot every bird they get a chance too with center fire rifles.
On the some properties we hunt its been mentioned to us several times not to stop at two and they mean it,who knows how many birds are killed illegally each year.
There is still some good turkey hunting there but how much more pressure is it going to take before the camels back breaks.

        Greg
Semper Fi

stinkpickle

Quote from: redjones on May 09, 2016, 12:25:55 PM
Been Turkey hunting Kansas for probably 15yrs. and this year I saw more people hunting than ever before.
Still had a good trip,but there is definitely more pressure now than ever before throughout the state.
Another thing to remember is that the farmers out there Hate turkeys with a passion,and its not uncommon for some of them to shoot every bird they get a chance too with center fire rifles.
On the some properties we hunt its been mentioned to us several times not to stop at two and they mean it,who knows how many birds are killed illegally each year.
There is still some good turkey hunting there but how much more pressure is it going to take before the camels back breaks.

        Greg

Sadly, that's the truth.  There are still a lot of folks in ag country who consider turkeys (and deer) to be nuisance animals.

turkeyfoot

Quote from: Rapscallion Vermilion on May 09, 2016, 10:31:32 AM
Jeff Prendergast, turkey biologist for Kansas, was quoted in Game and Fish magazine as saying "In the spring of 2015, Kansas had the highest turkey harvest ever — 74,000 birds ...".  The typical harvest for many years running, reported by KDWP, has been in the low to mid 30,000 range.  If that number for 2015 is correct, it might give some insight into the dearth of birds this year.
curious how they get the harvest numbers can't be real accurate right same with Neb

stinkpickle

Quote from: turkeyfoot on May 09, 2016, 07:37:57 PM
Quote from: Rapscallion Vermilion on May 09, 2016, 10:31:32 AM
Jeff Prendergast, turkey biologist for Kansas, was quoted in Game and Fish magazine as saying "In the spring of 2015, Kansas had the highest turkey harvest ever — 74,000 birds ...".  The typical harvest for many years running, reported by KDWP, has been in the low to mid 30,000 range.  If that number for 2015 is correct, it might give some insight into the dearth of birds this year.
curious how they get the harvest numbers can't be real accurate right same with Neb

Yeah, they must mail out surveys, or something.  I've never received one from them, though.  A telecheck system would be a good thing for them.

turkeyfoot

I've got them from Neb few times but never Ks and not from Neb every year. Would be nice to know exact numbers and county by county report would be nice to see

BowBendr

Quote from: turkeyfoot on May 10, 2016, 07:33:07 PM
I've got them from Neb few times but never Ks and not from Neb every year. Would be nice to know exact numbers and county by county report would be nice to see

Agreed. Never did understand how they arrived at a correct number.

Rapscallion Vermilion

Quote from: BowBendr on May 10, 2016, 07:47:10 PM
Quote from: turkeyfoot on May 10, 2016, 07:33:07 PM
I've got them from Neb few times but never Ks and not from Neb every year. Would be nice to know exact numbers and county by county report would be nice to see

Agreed. Never did understand how they arrived at a correct number.
I've received electronic survey requests from them.  The most recent one was for the 2015-2016 small game harvest report.