Ok fellas here is a bit of a peek at what I have the 26 inch 870 SM doing currently. I've got to adjust the red dot after swapping chokes, it shoots a tad high. But this was with a fowled barrel using the Longbeard 3.5 inch 2oz 6's with the TruGlo SSX .643 choke at a lasered 30 yards over at the gun club. It was about 66 degrees out today. Not too shabby, the 5's shot nearly identical to this using a SumToy .665 so I believe I will go with the 5's even though the density of these 6's is super.