Last nlght I was cruzing around on midway, and noticed that they had there Carlson Xr long beard chokes on sale for $35.99. I told myself that I was Gona buy the jellyhead max for my 11-87. So I'm Gona give it a spin with a few loads. I'll try all the Lb's, and some fed Hw's, and the hevi 3 6's. It's a .660 like the jellyhead, so it should work well.