i listed a couple calls i make, pics are hard to list here, been messing with the calls for about 3-4 years, came up with a few designs that have proven themselves in the woods across the us, killed all four subspecies with these calls, i strive for consistency because that was what drove me to making my own calls, i hate getting a good one and then buying another and it is totally different. i understand the tiny variables involved though and can easily understand how it can happen, if you get a call you don't like i will gladly send you another or refund your money, not here to get rich on call making just thought i would offer something that works for me to everyone else. thanks