yea 10ft of snow is not uncommon for that area, just trying to give you a hard time. we'll take all the snow we can get over here in Pinetop too. I understand what you're saying about road hunters and there are a lot of them in the spring too, I hunted 12a this past fall and as we were walking back to my truck with birds in hand we were met by a game warden, he said "well this is a first for me turkey hunters that aren't road hunting". good luck in 12A I have a friend with a Gould's tag down south I'll be helping, his second Gould's tag in three years.