I'm a firm believer in pellet count also, BUT, the pellets have to be big enough to do the job. I shoot the Nitro 4-5-7 HS loads and the 7s make up a big part of the holes it puts in the 10" circle. Here's the "but", I've noticed when I throw a turkey up on the tailgate there's a lot of pellets that hit the truck. If you pick the turkey up and shake him, a lot more pellets fall out. These pellets are hitting the turkey but aren't pentrating the feathers. They're not the 4s or 5s, they're the 7s. A hole in the paper doesn't kill turkeys, holes in the turkey do. How many #7 pellets does it take to equal the kinetic energy of a #4 or 5?