I use to shoot Active in 1992, killed a bird with two shot thru one eye. Had shot lined up against the neck vertebrate, didn't do any damage at all, wasn't a long shot. I quite using them and went with winchester supreme HV #5's, have used them ever since. The active was suppose to be #5 but they were a little short on that. I would use the longbeards #5, when I run out of supreme HV. Winchester just makes a better shot shell.