IMO they are a great load. I use them in my Tikka (Ithaca) 222/12 ga. combo gun for fall turkey hunting here in Pa. The Tikka is restricted to 2 3/4"(70mm) shotshells. It is choked full(.695) and throws excellent patterns. 1 5/8 oz. lead shot is the max you can load in a 2 3/4" shell. I have killed several fall turkeys with the above combo without any complaints. I believe I have 3 or 4 boxes left which should last awhile since Federal has discontinued manufacturing the load.