Here is the question. I have had good luck gettting birds to get within 40 yards from my set up, but most of the time they don't come right in to 20 yards or closer. So, how do you get them in your lap. Most of the time, I stop calling or only purr when I see a bird that is coming but 60-80 yards away. I hunt in open hard woods and fields. I do not use decoys in the woods when I am moving around.