I fooled around a lot with the 28 gauge chokes and loads. All of the big name chokes were huntable, with me finally breaking down and counting holes. I never liked doing that but the patterns were pretty similar and even. Just wondering what loads you find the best results with. I found that 1200 fps give or take 20 has the best/most even patterns for me. That leaves me with a pretty stout 1.375 oz load or a less recoil 1.25 oz load. I also found the 8.5 TSS has a noticeable edge in the pattern density and even patterns. I tested every size from #7-#9.5. Friends are getting good results with stacking loads. I may get adventurous and try it, but I am a creature of habit, lol. Good luck and God Bless. Z