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Started by WV Flopper, July 18, 2024, 10:12:44 PM

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NYturkey

My biggest issue with the Black Hills specifically is that it's not a state forest, it's a National.

"In the United States, national forest is a classification of protected and managed federal lands that are largely forest and woodland areas. They are owned collectively by the American people through the federal government and managed by the United States Forest Service, a division of the United States Department of Agriculture. The U.S. Forest Service is also a forestry research organization which provides financial assistance to state and local forestry industry.[1] There are 154 national forests in the United States."


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eggshell

Custer State Park is right in the middle of the black hills and I believe non residents are not allowed to turkey hunt in it. Residents already have an exclusive parcel of land within the Black Hills.

Bottomland OG

I have been a traveling turkey and deer hunter for a long time. Way before YouTube or the hunting channels on tv. I'm not a slam chaser, I just love hunting. I have never had a problem with the way each state regulates the land within that state. This issue has been going on for a long time, it's just more wide spread across the country now days. I was privileged enough to get to hunt SD years ago when it was good and got to witness the numbers decline just like many other states as hunting got popular. I  live in a state that has a draw hunt for the first 3 days of turkey in a national forest. I have never been drawn for as long as this has been going on, and live in the same county. I always consider it as a donation. I don't get pissed off I just go somewhere else. I also own property in another state that has a lottery system for bear tags only for the residents. No nonresidents. Not even land owners, I don't whine about it, I just let my neighbors bear hunt if they happen to draw a tag. As far as wanting the federal government to intervene, well this would probably be a complete disaster. For example the powers at be right now can't even define what a woman is so I definitely don't want them messing around with our hunting. At the end of the day we all should be thankful we still are able to hunt. As long as the decisions that are made from state to state are for the better of the turkey populations I'm all for whatever that decision is. But we all have our own opinions. This is just my 2 cents.

GobbleNut

I believe this horse has been sufficiently beaten, but here is the bottom line for those folks wanting change:  The system that is in place now is based on existing interpretation of wildlife law regarding "state's rights" in this country...and ALL across the country. It very likely ain't gonna change folks.

You can TRY to change the laws (again, very unlikely)...or you can deal with it by staying abreast of the changes in the different states as they occur and modifying your hunting preparations and strategies to try to best take advantage of those changes. 




WV Flopper

Lots of truth in the last several posts.

Thanks guys, I respect that.

deathfoot

I've hunted several states that require a draw for limited turkey tags. Some states limit non resident tags while other states that have a x amount of tags give residents first choice.

What I've found, great turkey populations in those states and well worth drawing for. I do think residents of the state should have first choice when tags are limited. Look at Arizona, they limit all big game and turkey tags to a maximum of just 10% non residents.

Only my opinion of course. Again, I don't mind drawing as a non resident. If I don't get it, I'll keep drawing until I do. I'm a guest in their state, where they pay taxes daily.

Prospector

Quote from: merriamsman on July 19, 2024, 12:45:23 PMWow, some of you have an attitude of entitlement that is misplaced. South Dakota, and every other state, has a responsibility to manage its resources for the benefits of the residents of South Dakota. Residents of a particular state accrue benefits of that state by their living, working, and paying taxes in that state. Nonresidents simply do not have the same rights and privileges as the residents of a state. When a limited resource is being stressed and restrictions are needed then a state has the obligation to limit nonresidents before limiting residents.
It is either PUBLIC Land.... Or it is not. If it also carries the moniker of Federal or National then you as a resident have no more right to it than I. I have stated this many times. It doesn't matter what the law may say. I may have to abide by that law, BUT it does not make it right.
This is a free country. Hunting your home state or another state is still a privilege....and not just for the Privileged.
In life and Turkey hunting: Give it a whirl. Everything works once and Nothing works everytime!

eddie234

You see it everyday on here, people complaining about the YouTubers bring attention to their public land.


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WV Flopper

It's been a long hot summer, thankfully, it's almost over.

YoungGobbler

I just read the post...

I am on the resident's side on this one. Residents should have the priority to hunt their own state.