As I get older I notice recoil more and like it less. I know I shoot better and more accurately when not anticipating a super sharp punch to the shoulder. That said, I think I would choose the Rossi Tuffy Turkey in .410, and the Stevens 301 Turkey in 20 gauge. I think the extra weight of the Stevens would help mitigate recoil with heavy TSS loads, and I would probably feel better having a steel receiver when shooting 20 gauge shells too. Since the Rossi has the adjustable buttstock spacers, getting the grandkids started on it in the .410 would be beneficial as as well. I would not want to start them on the Rossi in 20 gauge. As someone already said, it is like shooting a 12 gauge when loaded with heavy TSS shells.