I was talking with a buddy, he said it was all his dad use to hunt with, he said his dad would come in from hunting and say old Tom Gaskins got another one! funny after that talk I came home and checked in here and someone had one for sale, I got it and gave it to my buddy, I went on a my first out of state with this guy and a few buddies, he killed a bird with that call I gave him and said he got emotional after he had taken the bird with it.. good stuff!!