Calling Strategy question

[Gobblechicken4]

Hello,

I'd like to hear some thoughts on what you all do for a calling strategy right after fly down.
Let's say the following
1) you end up with a gobbler 100-200 yds away as he flys down. He'd gobbled on the roost a couple times. But when he flys down he just mulls around. There are no hens close in this scenario. He's gobbling but not "hot". What do you do for a calling sequence

2) same scenario except there are hens.  In this case the hens aren't talking much. They've all flow. Down and are just scratching and feeding. What's your calling strategy.

This is a scenario on my farm I am likely to encounter. At least one or 2 hunts the birds are usually fired up. But in the event those just don't work out I'm curious what strategies folks use.

Thanks a bunch in advance for the help.

[Dtrkyman]

Being that is your farm I set up and call from the place they are most likely to go, I never use a specific calling strategy so to speak, I just feel my way into it.  Close to the roost I start softly and go from there.

It is really easy to call a turkey where they are already headed!

[Tail Feathers]

I've had a few gobblers go from somewhat disinterested to hot using some cutting.  If he has hens, it can be real tough.  Mocking and mimicking the boss hen can work, but you have to be close enough to hear her and 200 yards probably isn't close enough for me to hear her.  In your scenario with hens, I would consider calling to him some and if he isn't coming, wait him out a while or leave and come back in two or three hours to near the same spot I started after he loses those hens.

[El Pavo Grande]

Not one approach set it stone.  Usually go with instincts on each hunt. 

1.  Often, I will give him time.  Call sparingly, go through stretches of silence and scratching in the leaves (if available).  If I decided to heat things up and terrain allows, I will increase calling intensity (mix short cuts and yelps) while walking away.  Do this for 50-75 yards (?) then slip right back to where you previously had been sitting.  Keep you gun up and ready.  At this point, I usually am going to wait him out for a bit without calling. 

2.  Get as close as terrain allows, soft calling (mainly clucks and purrs)and scratching in the leaves.  If a hen calls, call right back.  Try to mimic what she does.  Get comfortable and be patient.  I've seen it take 4-5 hours. 

[btomlin]

Scenario 1.  If the terrain allows and he is 200yrds, I'm going try to cut the distance.  Sometimes only a small distance can change the game.  If 100yrds....I'm going to let him make the next move and my calls are going to be soft and content.

Scenario 2.  I'm going to use the terrain to get in front of them or go find another bird.

[TauntoHawk]

If it's your own property I'm going to be alot more patient and just let them dictate the hunt. If you can hang with the birds a few hours without losing track of them or busting them usually a window of opportunity will open up.

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[Greg Massey]

First as it's becoming fly down time , i'm going to give him the scenario of another group of 2-3 hen's who has roosted near this group of turkey's. Then I'm going to do some soft calling etc, if this doesn't work, then i will probably use gobbler and jake yelps.     Never under estimate the use of wing's flopping during this setup as the hen's fly down and leave scratching, this can be just as important in this scenario as trying to do a bunch of soft calling.. What you want to do is get him all fried up. You main goal is for him to fly down and not stay on the limb gobbling.

[bowbird87]

100 yards and no hens I'm letting him know I'm there and then getting quiet and natural. (clucks, purrs scratching leaves). If that doesn't work its super loud and aggressive then I'm moving.

If he has hens I feel like you have to fire the hens up, which for me is more aggressive calling.

[Gobblechicken4]

This is fantastic. Thanks for all the help!