Are you talking public or private, I am for the if I am mentoring I want them to see some success, doesn't mean a kill but the experience, I always explain the "it's the hunt not the harvest". In most cases with kids I am taking them on private, some adults too if I get a good read on them, and then there is public. Even with the kids around here a lot of the families are farms and have their own access.
MK M GOBL