Sounds familiar. I have a large tract of mountain just across the road from me. Posted and they are my listening and activity birds. Nice to get up in the morning, go to my deck with a cup of coffee and hear the morning wake up. Doesn't do much for my wanting to be over there. And yes, I've tried to get permission. No go, any way, shape, or form. Stay away. Doesn't seem to stop the illegal 4 wheelers and the occasional gun shot though. I guess they shoot and then high tail it out of there, as there are many trails. About 6-8 gobblers across the road this year.