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Breeding question

Started by VT_hunter, March 29, 2016, 12:48:01 PM

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VT_hunter

We have had one of the mildest winters in a long time here in VT, and most of New England. There's no snow on the ground, frost is even out in most low lands, might even get close to 70 the week (cooling off this weekend and next week). I'm just curious what the season is going to look like this year. Will it be an early breeding season as the weather is ahead of schedule or does the weather matter? Some say its based on daylight. I know I'll have a better answer toward the end of May but just wondering if folks have an opinion/theory of how an early spring affects turkeys and hunters.

fallhnt

Length of day for the start. Weather for the success of the hatch.
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Spitten and drummen

A lot of people will say weather doesn't affect the breeding cycle and that the increase of daylight is what  stimulates the breeding. In my opinion though I think that both play a role. I can say down here in ms I have seen the breeding all but done with a week of season left. I have also seen the breeding be slow and kick off well at the end of season. Both instances have been involving early and late spring. Most of the time it is pretty close to the same cycles from year to year give or take a week or 2. I'm no biologist and I'm just speaking from my experiances.
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OldSchool

I think the length of daylight hours has more to do with it than anything, but I think severe weather can affect it to a degree too. All in all, it seems to be pretty consistent here over the years.

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jed clampett

Well...i think the weather has alot to do with it...several years ago I got a permit in may...here in Illinois we only get to hunt 1 week per permit..the weather was real nice march through April..they were done in may ...not a gobble anywhere it was hot an really warm..last year I took the opening week..2nd week of April...it was cold and it looked like a barren landscape ground still had frost..most were in their winter flocks yet...i was successful on the very last day of the season 1 hr before quttin time at 1 o clock....years before I took a gobbler on the 1st week of may 2 years in a row..this year I got the 3rd week of April...i am hoping it cools down little I think it slows them down...just my opinion...as far as length of daylight..isnt daylight length pretty much the same when you go vertically on the map??...i have already seen gobbler strutting with 5 hens..so I don't know what this year will bring!!

Marc

Good topic.

I believe if it were only daylight, we would see more similar behavior from the birds year to year.

As an example, in California, we have been suffering drought conditions, and the previous two seasons, birds were well into the breeding routine by the time the season started.  This year with a bit above average water, and all of the creeks, ponds, and springs at normal levels, the birds are just getting into the breeding cycle (from what I have witnessed).

This makes sense, as during drought years, birds would need to breed earlier to get ahead of the ensuing lack of summer water.

And as another example, it seemed to us that birds were done with breeding towards the end of the season, but he had a couple late storms...  Right after this stormy weather we noticed a resurgence of breeding behavior...  I would guess some hens lost some nests and tried to rebreed.

It is also my understanding that turkey poults are very susceptible to hypothermia following stormy (wet/snowy) weather...  So if we are having a lot of spring rain, I would expect to see a bit of a later breeding cycle (someone correct me if I am mistaken please).

Also, I have noticed that birds in higher elevations tend to get into the breeding cycle later than at lower elevations (at the same latitude).  This would make me think that temperature plays some role as well.

I would say that the amount of daylight is a key signal in instigating breeding behavior, but that weather and habitat conditions also play important roles.
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Quote from: fallhnt on March 29, 2016, 01:24:45 PM
Length of day for the start. Weather for the success of the hatch.
:icon_thumright: I would add a early spring = early green up that helps the hunter.

Greg Massey

As days get longer this is the beginning of the turkey mating season. Weather also plays a important part of the hatch. As the breeding season starts to build the gobbling becomes more active which triggers the hens that it's breeding time. It only takes a gobbler seconds to breed a hen then hes on his way to find another one. After the hen is breed she will lay one egg a day until finished over a 2 week period. The hen want sit on the nest until she has laid all her eggs. This breeding cycle can go all the way into late May or the first of June..It's just turkeys doing what turkeys do...Breeding...