I've got two of them and can say they aren't the end all choke for 835/935's. In my 835 the only load it beat out the Indian Creek was Hevi 13's 2.25 oz load of 7's. All other loads I tried the IC beat it. In my 935, the IC was better with every load tried. That said, it wasn't beat out by much. It's a good choke and if you run across one at a fair price, it's worth a try. They really don't loose value and sell quick when they do go up for sale.