Clark/Taylor, Thanks for the replies. My oldest boy shoots an M2 and all the rest of the family shoots SBE 1s. Clark, you are dead on with the low POA/POI. It seems the SBE 2s had some issues from 2010 thru 2012. You clinched the deal for me! Kyle will love it for pheasant hunting and it will give me an additional turkey gun when I take others out. Thanks so much! Steve