I like a pistol grip. Like others have said, helps with the long time holds. I got rid of my 870 with sure shot stock in favor of an 835. Love my 835, no need to explain that one, but immediately regretted not having that stock. I just bought an m3500 Saturday and will absolutely get that grip. Hevi D, the "sure shot" stock on super mags and other Remington's are actually made by Remington.