First of I'm new to the site, and thanks for allowing me to be here. I'm also new to patterning shotguns, this was my 2nd time doing it. But I did find a good book on shotguning, at the local library, the name of the author escapes me, but it was a 70's print chocked full of info. By the way I've found several good books on turkey hunting there also to educate my empty mind. But anyway yesterday I took out my Rem. 20ga. express 26" barrel using the only turkey choke I have for it, a primos titewad .570. I had short amount time to get it done so I did all my shots at a stepped off 40yds. I tried every load that I had and was unimpressed with all but one, the hevi- 13 #7's surprised me, I counted 114 hits in a 10" circle the rest of the loads where not even half of that. I only 4 left so that what I'll use this season, the pattern was about 4" low but I'm sure it will work. I would like to try a different choke, but don't really know what to use, I see a lot of folks here rave about Sumtoy, but I'm on very tight budget and can't afford a whole lot, I'm doing good to have what I have! The pattern with the titewad was not real even kinda spread out side to side, but still better than rest. I just placed a 10" pie plate over the core of the pattern and traced around it, I hope I've done this right, just looking for some tips.