I was finally able to shoot the Winchester longbeard xr's and was very impressed to say the least. My best pattern was with the x-factor 695 choke and I got 234 hits in the 10 inch circle. Neat part was how even and full the pattern was. They also shot exact point of aim with my red dot sighted in for mag blends and a hevishot choke. The gun was an 835 20 inch barrel shooting 3.5 inch longbeard xr #5's. For the price difference I can no longer justify buying tungsten rounds.