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Started by Juan Gonzales, April 19, 2014, 10:11:02 PM

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Juan Gonzales

Ok, I hunt with a man who is like a father figure to me. He kinda took me under his wing when it came to archery and hunting. He has harvested a ton of birds in his life and he is now 62. He has always been a great caller and instructor. But this year when we have gone out we would set up on some birds and he would be calling kinda loud I though at first light. We'll the birds would be gobblin good and he would just keep calling, normally I would just do some soft calls and then shut it and call every once in awhile till the birds would come in. We'll my buddy will jump all over his slate and call loud! Then he will do some loud cuts to try and get them to keep gobblin and when ever he does that the birds quit gobblin and we never hear another word. Now I know that kind of cutting is not normal but do you think this is effecting the birds and causing them to shy away or are they just hened up? But it's happened 3 times already, I want to tell him to kinda lay off but I don't want to upset him, so what do you think?

TnRidgeRunner

When your being "taken" hunting, it's just that...your along for the ride. I would let him do his thing, and find other days to hunt in the style you think will work. One of the things you have to learn to accept when hunting with other people is that everyone has their own opinion....me included.  :funnyturkey:

Spitten and drummen

Hard to say. If he has a ton of birds under his belt , he must be doing something right. Maybe just casually ask him about why he is being so aggressive. Act as though you want to learn. After all he has been your mentor. Remember everyone has their personal style of hunting and calling. Suggest that since he has been so good to you throughout your learning curve, you would like to call him one up. Then maybe he will turn the calling over to you for a while and see if you produce better results. Maybe you can teach an old dog a new trick. Good luck and i hope yall tag out.
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memert116

Tough spot.  I think you really do need to respect this man (I'm sure you do by your post).  Maybe you just need to sit down away from the woods in a calm moment and ask him why he is doing what he is doing.....kind of like asking him to teach you and then ask him why "he" thinks it isn't working?   Again, tough spot to be in... :(

| Justin |

I think a lot of it depends on how fragile you feel the relationship is... how easily you might hurt his feelings.  If it were me, I would consider asking him about taking turns calling each trip (or for a few trips or whatever).

Tell him you've been practicing or something, and are curious to see how they react to your calling.

silvestris

He is probably like me and needs hearing aids.  I was shocked at how loud I was calling when I got the hearing aids.
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jblackburn

Quote from: silvestris on April 19, 2014, 11:39:58 PM
He is probably like me and needs hearing aids.  I was shocked at how loud I was calling when I got the hearing aids.

That's what I was wondering.  I bet his hearing is not as good as it used to be.
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BowBendr

Quote from: jblackburn on April 20, 2014, 12:42:17 AM
Quote from: silvestris on April 19, 2014, 11:39:58 PM
He is probably like me and needs hearing aids.  I was shocked at how loud I was calling when I got the hearing aids.

That's what I was wondering.  I bet his hearing is not as good as it used to be.

I can agree with this. It happened to my Dad when he got into his later 60's...but be warned, this is also a tough subject to approach if they are not aware it's happening or they don't want to admit it.

kwc

im 59 and dont hear as good as i use to., to the  point i dont  hear birds my friends hear. try to be polite and point out when you are hearing birds you may be supprised that he is calling more because he isnt hearing birds, good luck

Juan Gonzales

He doesn't hear as we'll as he used to, he keeps saying he is going to get some. Thanks guys!

sixbird

Quote from: | Justin | on April 19, 2014, 10:42:48 PM
I think a lot of it depends on how fragile you feel the relationship is... how easily you might hurt his feelings.  If it were me, I would consider asking him about taking turns calling each trip (or for a few trips or whatever).

Tell him you've been practicing or something, and are curious to see how they react to your calling.

I'd say this is a good strategy...Maybe telling him it would mean something to you if you could call a few in for him like he did for you (as someone else said).