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IDEA....???

Started by st8tman, April 16, 2014, 09:45:51 PM

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st8tman

Folks,
          Haven't been on the Gobbler in awhile, but had an incident Monday AM that compelled me to post for your consideration/ideas. Had an experience early AM that brought 5-7 strutting birds within "marginal" distance. This occurred in an open cow pasture with very little in the way of reference points for range estimation. (For me open fields like this is more difficult estimating range than in the woods where I have other items to use for reference) Nevertheless, as I sat there with a very capable SBE II with Rob Roberts choke and 3 1/2" Magblends my mind began to wonder about definitive distance. I have taken numerous birds with this gun, and despite the inherit costs/recoil of the Magblends have spent ample time on the range to know the weapons capability. Despite all of this, I still was left wondering and attempting to determine the given range of the birds before me. I have been an avid hunter for forty years, and although my eyes have faded a bit in the last 5 years still can see and associate objects/distance fairly well. In the end I picked out one of the larger of the birds and at the right time......sent him to the promise land.....22lbs 7oz. Despite this success, I still could not get this thought out of my head.......WOULDN'T IT BE NICE IF SOMEONE LIKE BURRIS OR ANOTHER MINI RED DOT SIGHT COULD INCORPORATE A RANGEFINDER IN THEIR OPTICS??
With todays technology surely this would not be much of challenge for their respective engineers. Obviously it would have to be configured where minimal movement would be needed to activate and utilize the product. Maybe have a remote wireless activation button where the hunter could mount at a location of their choice somewhere on the weapons receiver, and the reading would appear in the corner of the site window of the actual red-dot.(Capable of 10yds-75yds) I realize the majority of range estimation and subsequent technology/marketing has been geared toward the long range rifle enthusiast, but as a Turkey hunter I also know the difference in 20 yards estimation could prove success versus failure. In reality much akin to the modern archery hunter, whereas they have configured bow mounted rangefinders. Something tells me the market is there for this product to be invented, as just about every Turkey hunter out there at one time or another has misjudged the distance to a bird. In no way am I trying to insinuate the replacement of woodsmanship and good old fashioned hunting skills, but in reality high tech is the world we live in, and if it will prevent a possible missed shot, or better yet avoid a crippled bird, I believe it is a worthwhile endeavor. Hezz, maybe I'm thinking too far out of the box, but thought I would put forth this ideal and see what you guys (Dedicated Turkey Enthusiast) think about it. Regardless of your thoughts, you will not offend me, as I merely seek to get some feedback to an idea. Thank each of you in advance for your time.
PS: Surely there is an engineer/inventor on this board who has already configured this in their mind while reading my babbling!

Skeeterbait

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I am assuming you are talking about electronic range finding and not reticle indicator range finding.  There have been both made into scopes. Apparently the electronic range finding scopes do not sell very well, they are quite expensive.  Someone, maybe it was simmons, made a turkey scope that had a diamond reticle that was supposed to give a range reference by whether the bird's head fit into the diamond or not.

I am not sure it is feasible to put an electronic range finder in small sights like reflex sights.  You would have to imbed laser emitter, optical eye, circuit board and additional battery capacity that would make the sight several times the current size of these devices and greatly increase the cost.  A reticle indicator could be etched in the glass easily enough but it would be dependent on the distance the device was mounted from the eye for consistant measurement.

I carry a hand held electronic range finder in a vest pocket.  The only thing I care about is a known 40 yard indicator.  So when I set up I use the range finder to find a 40 yard object so I have a point of reference to use when a bird shows up.  I suppose such a device could be developed for weapons mounting allowing you to use a pressure switch to activate.  It would need a screen that could be aimed and read from a greater eye relief distance.  Mounting to different weapons could proove to be more expensive for the company to develop than the device itself.  On my gun I have extra picatinny rail in front of my sight and I could see using an offset picatinny mount to allow it to sit to the left of the sight.  This could allow the quick ranging of a bird via a pressure switch with minimal movement and then moving the eye to the sight for the shot.  I am not sure this really provides an advantage over using a hand held device to pick a point of reference before the bird shows up like I do though.  Once I have a known point of reference, I can visually imagine a 40 yard boundry in the form of an arc out in my swing path.  It is pretty easy to know when the bird has stepped inside that arc regardless of exactly which direction he comes in from.

SCDieselDawg

I prefer the Simmons Pro Diamond. The diamond shaped reticle is engineered to provide a reference point for 40 yds. Pretty much if the turkeys head and neck fill the diamond he's close enough to shoot at.


I believe that other manufacturers like Bushnell,Nikon,Leupold also incorporate this type of reticle in their turkey scopes.