I borrowed my pap's for my first spring hunt years ago as I didn't have any turkey calls, let alone a vest. I actually had one come from about 200 yards out to within about 50 yards, but I never did see him. Heard him the whole way though. At that point I thought it was great. Now that I have some experience under my belt, I personally think that the ones that my pap has (which are the only ones that I have ever heard) are way too high pitched.